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    General Information Topic. Read this before posting.

    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-15, 02:37

    Hello and welcome to Orcworm.co.uk! Before you start posting on our forum on doing... whatever it is you plan to do on our Minecraft Server I would like you to read the following rules. Failure to do so, or failure to comprehend them, _may_ result in a swift exile so be sure to read them.

    Server Rules (Last revision: 14-06-2011):

    1. General behaviour
    - The use of glitches, bugs and exploits for material gain, to cause grief or to cause lag is ground for an immediate ban.
    --- Before looting an unlocked check whether it is glitched or not. To check use "/lwc info". If it says "This air is unregistered" then it's glitched.
    - Any and all topics may be discussed in the in-game chat provided that they are kept civil and are not racist or religious in nature.
    - Harassing a player over extended periods of time with insults or comments about their age/sex/sexual orientation/country/race/etc is not allowed.
    - Spamming the chat is not allowed.
    - A player may not repeatably start multiple auctions in a short timeperiod ("Auction-spam") nor start an auction with a duration longer than 60 seconds.

    2. Griefing
    - Modifying another player's structure in any way without express permission is not allowed
    --- Modifying the immediate area around another player's structure for the sole intent of "pissing them off" is likewise not allowed.

    3. Safe Zones
    - Safe Zones and Safe Zone Owners are defined as the following:
    --- Safe Zone: Acknowledged Cities (see section 7) | Owner: Mayor/City Council
    --- Safe Zone: 16 block radius outside of a considerable house | Owner: owner of house
    --- Safe Zone: 16 block radius outside a previously announced project | Owner: current builders
    - The setting of a Home-location (/home, /pw) in a safe zone requires the permission of that safe zones owner.
    - Camping longer than 15 minutes at a time outside of a Safe Zone is not allowed.
    - Initiating PVP Combat in a Safe Zone if you are not the Safe Zone's owner is not allowed.

    4. PVP
    - The use of Lava, Fire and Water in PvP-combat IS allowed provided that the party using it cleans it up afterwards.
    - The use of Donator+-abilities in PvP-combat is not allowed.

    5. Use of Commands, Runes, Redstone and Items
    - Use of any method whatsoever to gain access to otherwise inaccessible areas (ie Locked houses) is not allowed.
    - Using commands to "lock" anothers property without express permission is not allowed.

    6. Use of Teleportations-abilities
    - Teleport-abilities are all methods to "teleport" from one location to another.
    - You may only teleport (to) someone if you have express approval of all parties involved with the teleportation.
    --- Failure to do so gives the players you teleported (to) the inalienable right to immediately kill you and/or request a demotion.
    --- Killing or damaging the teleporter/teleport target when approval WAS given is not allowed.

    7. Cities
    - City owners/Council members of _acknowledged_ cities are free to make additional rules for players in their city. These rules must be clearly viewable when entering the city and on the forums. They must also not contradict any of these rules unless when given public approval by at least two members of Staff on the forum.
    - A city is acknowledged when it has a dedicated topic on the forum.
    - A City owner/Council member may evict a player or demolish any structure provided that the reason for this has been posted in the dedicated topic 48 hours before hand. Whether or not the player/builder receives any reimbursement and what this reimbursement is shall be decided by Staff.

    8. What to do in case of rule-breaking
    If you notice someone breaking the rules then /msg Staff online. If no Staff is online, or is not capable of handling the situation at that time, then gather as much evidence and data (such as location, names, etc.) and post this on the forum. Staff will then decide whether or not the accusation is valid and will decide on the appropriate punishment.

    9. Punishments
    Infractions of the rules are punished in different ways according to their severity. These are:
    1) A warning.
    2) A temporary ban the length of which is determined by the Staff-member handling your case. This type of ban is not appealable.
    3) A permanent ban. This ban is appealable. Make a post in the Ban Appeal-section if you think your ban was unjust.
    4) A Demotion. Donators and Staff can be stripped of their rank and privileges if they abuse them.

    10. In conclusion
    - Not understanding the rules is not an excuse for breaking them.
    - Using possible loopholes in the rules is not allowed.
    - When in doubt: ask the Staff or post your question on the forum.
    - Staff-members are free to bend or break these rules if they can give a solid, convincing, reason why doing so would be in the best interest of the server. Abuse of this WILL result in an immediate demotion to Guest.
    - Staff-members may choose to ban any players regardless of whether or not they broke any rules. This requires a majority vote among the Staff-members or the consent of Orcworm.

    Forum Rules (Last revision: 11-08-2011):

    1.- Write Clearly
    No “1337 5p33k”, unless it's to make a point. No SHOUTING either, please. In case you're not good with English; please do your best, ask someone who knows or use a translator, since we're an international community, and therefore the official language is English. Also try to make your posts actually say something. Nobody benefits from one-word-posts nor from vaguely described ideas. So try to make your posts have at least 2 or 3 lines of text when possible. As for thread titles, don't use anything that might be offensive or mean, remember to make it meaningful as to what your thread is about. Vague titles are annoying to us and un-helpful to yourself, just like titles in “all caps”, and they will be deleted.

    2.- Be Polite
    Please remember that tone is hard to judge on the Internet, and that not everyone will welcome sarcasm or irony the same way. Please keep your trolling and flaming somewhere else; although we accept some slight trolling, any major troll will have his/her post deleted and his account banned. On the other hand, as a user you must be aware that we are an adult community, although many of our users are under-age, we discuss all and every topic, from religion to politics to sex. (In a civil way, of course.) If any of these topics make you uncomfortable, you should be aware to stay out of the “Off-Topic” section of the forum.

    3.- Smilies and Post Formatting
    If you must use smilies, use them sparingly — excessive smilies will get deleted or your whole post deleted, and posts that contain nothing but smilies are generally frowned upon. Do not use colours or large font sizes in your posts since they are reserved for the forum moderators, unless they may be essential for the purpose of conveying a message to the audience.

    4.- Avatars and Signatures
    Although everyone likes a good old stick-men fight, we'd rather not have something like that as your avatar, so if you really want to use a .GIF avatar, please make it colourless and easy on the eye. As for signatures, please keep them small, if you want an image go ahead, but make it small enough, specially it's height. This means that an signature may only contain either 4 lines of unspoilered text, images with a combined maximum height of 150px or 1 spoiler containing as much text/images as you want. Likewise avatars have a maximum dimension of 150x150px and size of 250kb. Forum staff is free to remove any signatures or avatars not conforming to these restrictions.

    5.- No Spamming — Think and Read
    Post a single idea/question/comment in only one forum. Do not double post, and instead edit your previous post if you have something new to add and no one has posted yet. Technical support requests may be bumped after a while in case they have been forgotten and sink past the first forum view page. Read the entire thread before replying to it. Nonsense may be deleted without warning, especially in a working topic. Also try not to post a subject that has already been discussed, or is currently being discussed. Finally, read the date of the last post before replying to it, necromancers will be warned and if they don't understand, banned shortly. As for quoting other posts, please only quote what you are referring to and remove images/movies from the quote to not make your post unnecessarily long. When the server's down, we know it's down. Making a new topic each time it's down is plainly spamming, and these threads will be deleted. If you think we haven't noticed at all, please send a PrivateMessage to Orcworm about it.

    6.- Allow the Moderators to Do Their Job
    We have selected a team of high-quality administrators for our forum, and they are all ready to handle situations. If we wanted you doing so, we'd offer you an administration rank.

    7.- Punishments
    Failure to follow these rules will result in a warning after the first offence. After the second offence, you will receive a one day temporary ban. Any offence from then on will result in an extended temporary ban or a permanent one.

    Ranks (Last revision: 14-06-2011):

    Our server has the following ranks:
    - Guest. Automatically received when you first join the server.
    - Member. Received when Staff/Orcworm trusts you enough.
    - Donator. Received when donating at least 10 pounds.
    - [Custom Title]. Received when donating at least 15 pounds and messaging Orcworm with your desired Title.
    - Staff. Handpicked when the need arises. Do not ask for this rank as this will hurt your chances

    Donator Perks (Last revision: 14-06-2011):

    Total of £5:
    - 100 Gil for every £ donated.
    - Permanent reserved slot
    - One zone for your build, maximum of 50x50 blocks. (A zoned area means it's protected, only myself
    and players specified by you will be able to edit the blocks in your zone, larger zones can be requested.)

    Total of £10:
    - 100 Gil for every £ donated.
    - Donator Rank (Default colour: Blue)
    (Extra commands associated with Donator Rank: Unrestricted /tp and /tphere, /magiccarpet, Compass teleporting)

    Total of £15+:
    - 100 Gil for every £ donated.
    - Custom title and name colour (Please send Orcworn a message on the forums)
    - PrivateWarp - /pw (Basically, multiple home points)
    - The ability to ride all monsters and animals, as well as other players by using a saddle.

    Any questions or suggestions concerning these rules can be posted in this topic. Be aware that all off-topic messages will be deleted and it's poster temporarily banned in accordance with Forum Rule #5.


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    Re: General Information Topic. Read this before posting.

    Post by PureCraft on 2011-06-15, 02:51

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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-15, 03:05

    And to demonstrate that the rules apply to everyone PureCraft has just gracefully volunteered himself to show them in action.


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    Post by redjello on 2011-06-15, 05:43

    I had planned a big elaborate critique however my browser closed before i could hit send, so i'm just going to say Section 4 line 1 is a great way to provide loopholes into griefing peoples tracks torches and other blocks of the such.
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    Post by thebadhatter on 2011-06-15, 05:49

    Modifying the immediate area around another player's structure for the sole intend of "pissing them off" is likewise not allowed

    Is there any sort of definitive radius that counts as "the immediate area"? 10 blocks, 100 blocks, within eyesight? Say for example someone built a giant pixelart sign saying "you are a fuckass hatter" within sight of my house, yet it was quite far away, would that still break the rule?

    In the case that the player building nearby claims that they weren't trying to piss anyone off, say for example building a dwelling near someone who wanted to live in a remote area, to what extent would it have to be likely that they are in fact trying to irritate people for them to be punished? It seems like a situation likely to include the "It's a free country, you don't own this land, I can build where I like" argument. Are there any finer details to be had concerning this one? I've wondered about it myself
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    Post by Ciphon on 2011-06-15, 05:57

    i like how the new ingame rules have been simplified, and close many loopholes that were left open, and i like the new concept of safe zones... just might be a challenge to enforce them


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    Thebadhatter wrote:Is there any sort of definitive radius that counts as "the immediate area"? 10 blocks, 100 blocks, within eyesight? Say for example someone built a giant pixelart sign saying "you are a fuckass hatter" within sight of my house, yet it was quite far away, would that still break the rule?

    In the case that the player building nearby claims that they weren't trying to piss anyone off, say for example building a dwelling near someone who wanted to live in a remote area, to what extent would it have to be likely that they are in fact trying to irritate people for them to be punished? It seems like a situation likely to include the "It's a free country, you don't own this land, I can build where I like" argument. Are there any finer details to be had concerning this one? I've wondered about it myself

    i think that would have to be decided as the case arises, and also maybe server rule 3 could have something to do with "the immediate area"
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-15, 06:04

    Jello:
    Excepts it isn't since people have to clean it up themselves afterwards. This was added to give people some more freedom in PvP. If people want to use it, then they are fully accountable for all lasting damages made by the water/lava. Using it to grief is and has always been bannable.

    Might I also trouble you in pointing out section 10 point 2 aka our catch-all rule: "Using possible loopholes in the rules is not allowed.". But thanks for expressing your concerns. If you find any more objectionable rules than I'm glad to explain why that rule was made and/or change it.

    Hatter:
    As for the immediate area, that depends solely on the case in question and has thus been left vague so people can not worm around it by building 1 block further than some arbitrary limit. It was mostly added for cases such as making trap holes right before someone's door or giant floating platforms above houses. As it is not touching the build itself it's not technically griefing, but I think we can all agree that it isn't exactly a nice thing to do. In your case I would put it more under harassment than anything else.
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    Post by mtbers on 2011-06-16, 01:54

    Noticed a slight error in the second line of the grieving rules. It should be intent, not intend.

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    Post by redjello on 2011-06-16, 05:05

    Who again decides what a loophole is? Wouldn't want for one person to say its a loophole while another says its not. It seems sort of like a way to make rules without telling everyone what those rules are. I think its hard to reprimand someone for a rule that they weren't actually given or shown. I think that the last set of rules was better defined.
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-16, 05:17

    Which is what the staff discussion forum is for. And please, the _meaning_ behind the rules should be clear. Don't be too much of an asshole and you won't get banned. We/I expect that people playing can think out for themselves what would be acceptable behaviour. You aren't 3-years old who need to be told everything.
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    Post by Krellyn on 2011-06-16, 08:13

    I have a question / request for an edit regarding Section 4:

    Line 1 does not state any limits involving the no-PVP area.

    Perhaps someone should add that the use of fire and lava is illegal in non-pvp areas?
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    Post by Ciphon on 2011-06-16, 08:26

    oh that made me realize, what happened to the no killing dogs in no-pvp areas?
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    Post by Pete on 2011-06-16, 08:33

    Linked (right after posting this) to the top part of the forum, in case someone misses global announcements.
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    Post by patrickfreed on 2011-06-16, 08:45

    PetePorty wrote:Linked (right after posting this) to the top part of the forum, in case someone misses global announcements.
    Pete, turn that into a clickable link. (Last time I touched that thing people got angry Shocked) http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp
    Edit: It's better, now make the link red. Razz


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    Post by GaMerG77 on 2011-06-16, 09:59

    The top link directs me to the general forum not this individual thread.
    Oh and FillerB, delete that non-hidden staff note ;p.
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    Post by UrMomsMoat on 2011-06-16, 10:54

    ah, thanks for the information. i actually read them guys Very Happy
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    Post by Pete on 2011-06-16, 12:06

    Fixed... I think.

    EDIT: Ok, I'm fine with the online thingy, but... the donation jar... I mean, it kind of makes that part a little too big. (Also, 145? WTF? You should cut down, it seems like it's way too much for a fucking MC server...)
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    Post by Ciphon on 2011-06-17, 14:19

    im confused about the server rules, orcworm said we aren't using the new ones posted on here.
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    Post by Jarvisd on 2011-06-17, 14:26

    Yah and 16bit said they don't use theses one either??? Maybe we should make the website ones accurate with these ones.


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    Post by Orcworm on 2011-06-17, 22:33

    Both sets are extremely similar, and there are sections where I prefer one over the other, and vise versa. The thing that doesn't seem to be quite right to me is the 'safe zone' policy - are staff members actually supposed to count 16 blocks from a house using a given screenshot to determine whether or not a kill was legitimate or not?

    Some people on this game, in my eyes, just need to suck it up and move on if they've been killed - not claim every command under the sun was used to kill them, whilst breaking half a dozen rules along with it.


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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-17, 23:05

    See the rules section for a change guys. II cannot believe you people start criticizing it now when it was on display for an entire WEEK before this topic went up. You had PLENTY of time to point stuff like this out. Honestly....
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    Post by Krellyn on 2011-06-18, 02:51

    Orcworm wrote:Both sets are extremely similar, and there are sections where I prefer one over the other, and vise versa. The thing that doesn't seem to be quite right to me is the 'safe zone' policy - are staff members actually supposed to count 16 blocks from a house using a given screenshot to determine whether or not a kill was legitimate or not?

    Some people on this game, in my eyes, just need to suck it up and move on if they've been killed - not claim every command under the sun was used to kill them, whilst breaking half a dozen rules along with it.

    In all honesty, I like both sets of rules, seeing as the newer set fills a loooooot of the loopholes that the older ones had. However the newer ones have some outrageous rules that, well, basically trying to make the server a a freebuild instead of a PVP.

    Jarvisd wrote:Yah and 16bit said they don't use theses one either??? Maybe we should make the website ones accurate with these ones.

    We're basically just like Ciphon:

    Ciphon wrote:im confused about the server rules, orcworm said we aren't using the new ones posted on here.
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-18, 02:59

    I honestly don't see how these rules make it a freebuild-server. PvP is still very much allowed (hell you can even use water/lava now if you clean the shit up). You only don't get to camp outside of players houses anymore.
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    Post by Krellyn on 2011-06-18, 03:07

    FillerB wrote:I honestly don't see how these rules make it a freebuild-server. PvP is still very much allowed (hell you can even use water/lava now if you clean the shit up). You only don't get to camp outside of players houses anymore.

    I'm gonna quote Orc, now:

    Orcworm wrote:Both sets are extremely similar, and there are sections where I prefer one over the other, and vise versa. The thing that doesn't seem to be quite right to me is the 'safe zone' policy - are staff members actually supposed to count 16 blocks from a house using a given screenshot to determine whether or not a kill was legitimate or not?

    Some people on this game, in my eyes, just need to suck it up and move on if they've been killed - not claim every command under the sun was used to kill them, whilst breaking half a dozen rules along with it.

    The 16-block radius idea is good, but extravagant. Maybe make the radius 4? Realistically, 16-blocks is just ridiculous. Everything is all cluttered regardless. Not to mention, the rule about "No Camping" should deal with camping outside a house as it is. This rule both complicates the job for the higher-ups once all those butthurt kiddies start posting saying, "HE KILLED ME WITH HIS BOW AND ARROW 15 BLOCKS AWAY FROM ME! I COUNTED!" It's gonna be a huuuuge hassle for everything. Say the Safe Zone were... 3-4, PVPers can't hit the victim with their sword, and if they constantly try, the victim has ample amount of time to screenshot the situation, and also prove a potential camping complaint.

    Your thoughts, Filler?
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-18, 03:23

    (On a sidenote: I can't believe that you are the first one to come with a serious suggestion)

    Yes, I know the 1 chunk/16 blocks area is excessively large and is practically unenforceable. Maybe we could lower the radius to 5 or 6, leaving a bit of wiggle room because of LOLNOTCH/Lag.

    But I'm not sure people are actually understanding the reasoning behind the whole safe zone-crap. Not _only_ is it to protect against campers. It is also to protect players who are busy constructing a large _announced_ project, such as the statues. Yes, it makes the whole thing look a tad freebuildisch (is that a word?) but those usually have large amounts of blocks on them and aren't looking at there environments. True, the protection shouldn't even be needed as long as people stayed civil but we all know how that turns out in practice right? The Safe Zone-thing _also_ ties in to the much hinted at but not yet publicly announced Cities-thing. When that goes up I'm sure you'll understand the reasoning behind it a tad more.

    And before _someone_ starts using that "If they want protection, they must donate"-crap again. It's a fucking DONATION with benefits not a Korean MMO Cash Shop. You need to keep the majority of players happy, not just the few with access to daddies credit card.
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    Post by Krellyn on 2011-06-18, 03:26

    FillerB wrote:(On a sidenote: I can't believe that you are the first one to come with a serious suggestion)

    Yes, I know the 1 chunk/16 blocks area is excessively large and is practically unenforceable. Maybe we could lower the radius to 5 or 6, leaving a bit of wiggle room because of LOLNOTCH/Lag.

    But I'm not sure people are actually understanding the reasoning behind the whole safe zone-crap. Not _only_ is it to protect against campers. It is also to protect players who are busy constructing a large _announced_ project, such as the statues. Yes, it makes the whole thing look a tad freebuildisch (is that a word?) but those usually have large amounts of blocks on them and aren't looking at there environments. True, the protection shouldn't even be needed as long as people stayed civil but we all know how that turns out in practice right? The Safe Zone-thing _also_ ties in to the much hinted at but not yet publicly announced Cities-thing. When that goes up I'm sure you'll understand the reasoning behind it a tad more.

    And before _someone_ starts using that "If they want protection, they must donate"-crap again. It's a fucking DONATION with benefits not a Korean MMO Cash Shop. You need to keep the majority of players happy, not just the few with access to daddies credit card.

    If that's the case, Filler, then people HAVE to announce their projects. Take this seriously, now:

    Say someone just logs on and goes off to build his giant dirt penis... ZuWrath spots him and goes off to kill him, knowing full well that he didn't announce anything. He'd have no case, because he wouldn't have read the new rules.

    If that's the case, maybe change the rule to make it more universal?
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    I see you fail to appreciate the beauty of the rule.

    If they don't know the rules and/or haven't announced the project then they apparently don't care enough about the server/project itself. Why should we help those who don't help themselves?

    As for your dirt penis example: someone like that isn't going to have mass quantities of a resource (except dirt) in his backpack. So if you kill him, can you really speak of a big loss of materials?
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    Post by Krellyn on 2011-06-18, 03:49

    FillerB wrote:I see you fail to appreciate the beauty of the rule.

    If they don't know the rules and/or haven't announced the project then they apparently don't care enough about the server/project itself. Why should we help those who don't help themselves?

    As for your dirt penis example: someone like that isn't going to have mass quantities of a resource (except dirt) in his backpack. So if you kill him, can you really speak of a big loss of materials?

    Gotcha. Also, a loophole I found: These rules imply that you can use fire in no-pvp areas... I don't think people would see it as a loophole as much as "Im allowed to do it"
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-18, 05:54

    The use of Lava, Fire and Water in PvP-combat IS allowed provided that the party using it cleans it up afterwards.
    And as you can't have PvP-combat in a No-PvP zone...
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    Post by Orcworm on 2011-06-18, 05:57

    Setting people on fire does seem to work in a No-PvP zone.


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    I once burnt Vespasian in spawn, he was AFK and there was a fireplace at the entrance of a store.
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    Post by PureCraft on 2011-06-18, 19:35

    good job Pete <3
    Its still pretty common, I heard ppl QQing last night <_<
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    Post by Lizardman on 2011-06-22, 06:26

    In topic Server Rules, Section 4, you neglected to add that the use of lava, fire, water and wolves in PvP in a PvP-free zone, e.g. New Orcshire, is strictly prohibited.

    Further, under those same rule set, the slaying of another player's friendly wolves in a non-PvP area will result in a 1 day ban.
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-22, 06:40

    The use of Lava, Fire and Water in PvP-combat IS allowed provided that the party using it cleans it up afterwards.

    The fuck is so hard to understand about the "In PVP-combat" part of that rule Lizzie? You _can't_ have PvP-combat in a No-PvP zone. So you also _can't_ dump lava, fire, water or perform any other PvP-affiliated action in that zone. There's no need to add hundreds of situation-specific rules since they are all covered thanks to the wonderful world of generalization.
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    The problem is, people dont generalize...


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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-22, 06:48

    Then those people are "fucked over" by their own inability to understand simply rules. Hence the "Not understanding the rules is not an excuse for breaking them."-clause we have had for months.
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    My favorite part of the rules <3


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    FillerB wrote:
    The use of Lava, Fire and Water in PvP-combat IS allowed provided that the party using it cleans it up afterwards.

    The fuck is so hard to understand about the "In PVP-combat" part of that rule Lizzie? You _can't_ have PvP-combat in a No-PvP zone. So you also _can't_ dump lava, fire, water or perform any other PvP-affiliated action in that zone. There's no need to add hundreds of situation-specific rules since they are all covered thanks to the wonderful world of generalization.

    I'm just covering dem loopholes (or as Yar calls em, goddamn loophills). Rules are not to be made general as then it's a matter of assumptions, which never end well.

    Don't forget why McDonald's is now required to have "Caution! Contents may be hot!" on the sides of their coffee cups.
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    Post by Orcworm on 2011-06-22, 06:57

    Jarvisd actually coined the word 'loophill', so there!


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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-22, 07:45

    Lizardman wrote:
    I'm just covering dem loopholes (or as Yar calls em, goddamn loophills). Rules are not to be made general as then it's a matter of assumptions, which never end well.

    I am not quite sure what's up to assumption about the term "No PvP-zone". Surely you agree with me that the meaning of putting the word "No" before the word "PvP" doesn't leave much of a gap.

    Wait let me rephrase that: This is an European server. We aren't going to cater to American "sensibilities".
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    Post by Lizardman on 2011-06-22, 07:47

    It's not the no-pvp thing, it's the means in which peeps would PvP in said areas OR just light people on fire "for the lulz".
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    Post by FillerB on 2011-06-22, 07:49

    Which is... you guessed it... PvP-combat.
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    Build Rules

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    Ummmm... Am I the only one thinking the poster above me is a bot? >.<
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    so im banned forever?
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    Post by Albuca on 2011-07-08, 04:27

    John6328 wrote:so im banned forever?

    Well you never did read the rules, or the appeal rules or _follow_ them.
    So your chances of getting unbanned ATM are nil.
    But if you _do_ read them, and _do_ follow them, then make a _proper_ appeal topic in the _proper_ forum, then well see.

    No promises, but you'll at least have a chance.

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    Post by StodgY on 2011-07-09, 07:14

    Hmm, I think some rules kind be proven if it's true or not if it accurs. Look at the rule: "- Camping longer than 15 minutes at a time outside of a Safe Zone is not allowed."

    "at the time" makes me think it could be walking away or go to ur house, put stuff in chest and return there. I think removing "at the time" is a better option.

    New Rule?: The use of someone elses bed is NOT allowed.

    You can use someone else's bed to spawn there. Meaning that when a door is open and I sneak in, lie in there bed and leave. Than when he is busy (with furnaces w/e) kill myself with no items, return to his home and kill him.

    I still don't know what about this lol.

    Also: "- The use of Donator+-abilities in PvP-combat is not allowed."

    I may use Donator abilities to run away I think that should be listed in this rule. Or isn't that allowed anymore?

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    Post by FillerB on 2011-07-09, 07:18

    Running away like a sissy coward is effectively ending the PVP-combat so yeah that's still allowed. Using the compass to get a real advantage in combat, ie Magic Carpet, teleporting to get closer quickly, or teleporting away abit, heal and then run back is however NOT since non-donators do not have the same perks.

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