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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 08:33

    or so pete calls my group "harassing" other players and saying it's considered "griefing". So orc if you would be so kind to clarify this.
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-22, 08:37

    kinda depends on what you think
    if you think griefing= causing other people grief, than yes
    if you think it means destroying other peoples stuff, then no
    but this is aimed at orc so ill gtfo now Very Happy
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-22, 08:38

    Griefing == causing grief. Destroying anothers work is just the most common form of it.
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    Post by SlaveofRH 2011-04-22, 08:38

    Every narb whines about being killed. If that's considered grief then it shouldn't be a pvp server.
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-04-22, 08:39

    Griefing in the context of Minecraft is simply the alteration of other people's works.

    As this is the internet, the true meaning of "Grief" doesn't mean potato mashers.

    Hence, Pete, PVP =/= Grief. Deal with it.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 08:39

    pope2142 wrote:or so pete calls my group "harassing" other players and saying it's considered "griefing". So orc if you would be so kind to clarify this.
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-04-22, 08:40

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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-22, 08:43

    Are you people actually capable of putting yourself in anothers shoes?
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-04-22, 08:44

    just sayin.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 08:48

    Jesus, is it so hard to get it? Killing other people after they have clearly stated that they don't want to fight, and searching for them to kill them is harassing.
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-04-22, 08:49

    PetePorty wrote:Jesus, is it so hard to get it? Killing other people after they have clearly stated that they don't want to fight, and searching for them to kill them is harassing.

    We don't search to kill people, if we come across them then we'll probably attack them.

    If everybody had the choice of "I dont want to fight" then we should just remove PvP altogether >.>
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 08:50

    My favorite part is that no one here can read/listen.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-04-22, 08:52

    then we can all sing songs and dance around a magical rainbow made out of love and icecream...
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 08:53

    OH, we can; we just don't care what you say. Also, we've all seen your "kill on sight" board; and many of those people have said they don't want to fight you guys.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-22, 08:55

    There's killing players and there's specifically targeting them repeatedly, I wouldn't want to play if the latter was happening to me. There is a very clear line between the two. I can't believe this discussion is still rampant after so many threads of back-and-forth shit flinging.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 08:56

    better yet pete, in this spawns definition where does it say anything about harassment? I mean not your meaning, the spawns meaning.
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    OH, we can; we just don't care what you say. Also, we've all seen your "kill on sight" board; and many of those people have said they don't want to fight you guys.
    yer point? pvp server much?
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-04-22, 08:57

    orc... please clarify... legal or illegal?
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-22, 08:57

    Pope, enough with the semantics, you know as well as I do how the term 'grief' can be interpreted in many different ways.

    Imir31d wrote:orc... please clarify... legal or illegal?

    Referring to what? If you're on a PVP server I'm pretty sure you're allowed to kill people.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 08:58

    The definition doesn't fit on a sign, and sincerely, there's no reason for us to define to you a well-known word. You can always google it too, but don't worry, I'll do it for you. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 08:59

    Pope, enough with the semantics, you know as well as I do how the term 'grief' can be interpreted in many different ways.
    quite, but I'm trying to get clarification, which has still not been given.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-04-22, 09:00

    Orcworm wrote:Pope, enough with the semantics, you know as well as I do how the term 'grief' can be interpreted in many different ways.

    Imir31d wrote:orc... please clarify... legal or illegal?

    If you're on a PVP server I'm pretty sure you're allowed to kill people.

    there we go people... and that is a rap
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 09:03

    Yes to kill, no to harass. Orc himself said you shouldn't keep attacking a person who already stated he doesn't wish to fight.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-04-22, 09:03

    ... does not want to fight... its a bloody PvP server - Player versus Player
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 09:06

    Yes, not player-versus-guy_walking_by_or_guy_trapped_in_his_house_because_you_won't_let_him_play
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-04-22, 09:09

    PetePorty wrote:Jesus, is it so hard to get it? Killing other people after they have clearly stated that they don't want to fight, and searching for them to kill them is harassing.

    Would any other pvp'er care? It's just because we're a group and that's why people are whining..

    As I already said, we don't go searching for them to kill them, if we come across them, we will kill them.

    And who cares if it is harassing? It takes 8 blocks to make themselves invincible from our attacks.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 09:10

    not player-versus-guy_walking_by_or_guy_trapped_in_his_house_because_you_won't_let_him_play
    last time i heard, if ur house is wide open, then being camped in it seems to be more of the players fault. as for walk-by's if you can't accept random ppl killing you while you walk, then why are you playing on a pvp server?
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    Post by SlaveofRH 2011-04-22, 09:10

    Pleaaase don't tell me we're gunna have rules against this. Wtf.
    What's the bounty thing for then? Targeting players yeah? Putting up money to have people target those players. Are you going to tell people it's harassment if someone on the bounty list complains about being killed? Or if someone says 'they don't want to pvp' are you going to take them off the bounty list?

    What is this, I don't even.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-22, 09:11

    Once again, people make assumptions based on what they think I will say, rather than what I have actually said.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 09:13

    rather than what I have actually said.
    sorry to say but you never actually "said" anything, which is why this post is still going..... >.>
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    Post by SlaveofRH 2011-04-22, 09:14

    I just don't understand it as harassment when it's perfectly easy to get away from and avoid.. and it's on a pvp server.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-22, 09:14

    Of course, if people don't want to fight people, there is no reason to kill them. Then again, killing them dozens of times is harassment, camping them on their homes is harassment too, and making a bounty board where you pay people to get killed or whatever is harassment too. Why can't you just play normally?

    Also; no, if it was just one person harassing others, it'd still be wrong, but being a grief gang is much more noticeable.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-22, 09:14

    pope2142 wrote:
    rather than what I have actually said.
    sorry to say but you never actually "said" anything, which is why this post is still going..... >.>

    Do you want me to quote what I said on the previous page?
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-04-22, 09:17

    we dont kill one person over and over, we kill several over and over meaning it is not harrassment as several recieve the same treatment. we are not hunting and killing 1 individual...
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-22, 09:17

    Orcworm wrote:
    pope2142 wrote:
    rather than what I have actually said.
    sorry to say but you never actually "said" anything, which is why this post is still going..... >.>

    Do you want me to quote what I said on the previous page?
    noted, but on goes pete
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-22, 09:18

    Imir31d wrote:we dont kill one person over and over, we kill several over and over meaning it is not harrassment as several recieve the same treatment. we are not hunting and killing 1 individual...

    Exactly, thus there is no problem, and until there is there is no need for these ridiculous threads asking me to define everything down to the tiniest detail to crop up every single day.

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