Attention gentlefolk

Circled in yellow: New Kumatora, one of the servers soon to be mayor cities.
Circled in red: Some extremely large walled area with almost no development in it.

Can someone explain to me who's BRILLIANT idea it was to make this piece of shit and how they can possible think that I'm going to allow this to continue?

It isn't mine, can't you just log block it?

I think that is vesp's work. He started building a wall in response to me building close to him... and I guess then he decided to do this? Either way, I can't live at my old fort anymore with that massive cobblestone wall :/.

They are a group of 12 people in a pvp cult. I guess they want to be protected. Just incircling acouple islands.

Jarvisd wrote:They are a group of 12 people in a pvp cult. I guess they want to be protected. Just incircling acouple islands.

Walling up an area four times the size of New Orcshire/Spawn for just 12 people? Oh come on...

what a douche move, i mean seriously.

Oh so people can't build what they like? Even if its only for protection?

I would call this more useless cluttering than actually count it as a building. And protection? Against what exactly? The fucking moon?

Just take it down using WE, Filly.

I'm morbidly curious in what possible reasoning there could be behind this Chinese wall-like construction Pete. And I already explained in game that unless I get a very, very good explanation on why I should let it stand, I would take it down.

So... it IS Vesp's, or not?

LogBlock says yes.

Tell him before you do it.....at least.

Helloooooo why do you think I made this topic?

filler its mine (technically) and if you would've read that pm that i sent u a week ago u would understand. I guess admins just don't do that as often as usual :/

I think that is vesp's work. He started building a wall in response to me building close to him... and I guess then he decided to do this? Either way, I can't live at my old fort anymore with that massive cobblestone wall :/.

btw its not staying cobblestone forever nub

FillerB's PM inbox had a problem related to being over-flooded, therefore, he probably didn't receive the PM since the inbox was full.

i even notified him about it, he could've told me that problem.

Well, since it's a PM, we don't know about it; what about sharing it with the rest of us?

we'll i just sent it to u, btw it's called a "private message" for a reason pete.

FillerB wrote:

Circled in yellow: New Kumatora, one of the servers soon to be mayor cities.
Circled in red: Some extremely large walled area with almost no development in it.

Can someone explain to me who's BRILLIANT idea it was to make this piece of shit and how they can possible think that I'm going to allow this to continue?

Oh I'm sorry, I thought that we were allowed to build what we want. We had this planned before the server even went up, let alone before Mike71414 showed up to grief into our base.

We built this 3000 blocks from spawn for the specific reason of NOT having anybody nearby to complain about it.

Ummm sorry for accidently building near you?

mike71414 wrote:Ummm sorry for accidently building near you?

Build your base within arrow range of mine all you want, but when you want MINE taken down, and it was there long BEFORE yours, that's when I have a problem.

Oh, and like I said before, we asked Orc about it and he was fine with it.

If you'll notice, we had a castle of similar size on the previous map, and nobody had a problem with that. And THAT castle was 300 blocks from spawn instead of 3000.

Where did I say I wanted yours taken down?

Look guys, Orc knew that we were going to be building BIG, in fact we sent him the plans for the area when we asked him about zoning it.

and it was denied for zoning btw.

Oh, and as for the "no development" inside thing, obviously we are building the wall first, and THEN the stuff inside.

If there is no wall, then random people will come inside and build everywhere. (whole point of wall in first place, without zoning no other way to claim area) We're going to do extensive landscaping on the area inside the wall, and make it into a very developed area.

Most of our base is subterranean, where we are stocking up resources to build the topside stuff.

You're Pvper's but you're acting like architects. Lol.

that's because we also are hence

dont break our wall

Me and Pope have come over an understanding about the matter. The current wall will be broken down and rebuild so that it only encompasses "their" island as indicated on a picture he send me. It will also be an actually wall and not just a bunch of stacked cobble.

I will however NOT stop anyone from scaling the wall through, for example, ladders and dirt blocks and building within. I also would like you and your group to stop your campaign of making the life of one particular player miserable. Just because this is a PvP-server does not give you a free pass to constantly keep ganging up on one guy. The term "grief" means more than just destroying anothers building.

Right, so we can have a wall, but have to completely rebuild it, and anybody can grief it whenever they want. That sounds awesome. I don't suppose I'll be compensated for the thousands of gil I spent on the cobble, or the hours I spent building, right? That would be foolish.

I guess accumulating all of my gil, resources and planning out large constructions was a waste of time, because any construction larger than a mud hut is only allowed if people think so, despite absolutely no rules about constructions being made before. And oking it with the guy who actually runs the server means nothing. If you want to make something impressive, you better be on a city council, and city council is decided by a popularity contest with the admins and mods.

Looks like I'll have to spend my gil on nothing but diamond armor and randomly killing people, since apparently that is preferred behaviour as opposed to building. Nice to know.

Councils were selected on a basis of who actually behaves; considering you're constantly breaking rules, of course you wouldn't be one. Also, it's ok to build something big, just not bigger than the fucking main cities. As you said, getting a compensation would be foolish, so yeah. Finally; we hate Orcworm, he takes it up the bum. ^_^

Name a rule I've broken, Pete. And a real rule, not one you made up. (as in people that pete doesn't like automatically are rule breakers.)

Rules in Orcworm's server, as stated on signs in spawn:

No griefing
No spawn camping
No insulting (pete will dispute this one obviously, ignoring the fact that people that I've killed once flame me non-stop, and I rarely ever respond.)

The rules aren't, as I recall:

"Kill anyone you want, unless they cry about it, in which case noone is allowed to kill them ever." (the mike71414 case of "build your base within arrow range of other person's base, cry on forum when shot by arrows from said base.")

or "Build anything you want, unless FillerB doesn't like it, in which case you're screwed."

Why is it not allowed to build something bigger than the "official" cities? If we can do something better MANUALLY then they can with worldedit and admin assistance, that's pretty sad. Orc's server used to be about massive buildings, things that were impressive to see in a survival server. But now only the members who suck up constantly and stay on the good side of everyone are allowed to build anything impressive. Nice.

FillerB wrote:

Circled in yellow: New Kumatora, one of the servers soon to be mayor cities.
Circled in red: Some extremely large walled area with almost no development in it.

Can someone explain to me who's BRILLIANT idea it was to make this piece of shit and how they can possible think that I'm going to allow this to continue?

you will let it continue because it isnt finished yet we put the wall around to be build up later when we have the resources which we now have
sorry we dont have cuboid like that one village and cant clear/wall the area with one command

I think what Filler is saying is that you guys are claiming a huge area, if not too huge of an area, and that you don't actually have anything in there. It's like if I put a sign on every tree in the server saying "Don't grief, this is mine"

so if i see something that was started and not finished then i can grief it?
its not even close to being complete and there will be many buildings castle inside

This has been settled via PM, so the related discussion thread is no longer required.