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    Post by Adriox 2011-04-14, 12:21

    Seriously, these Donor plugins are getting out of hand. You guys are annoyed by the amount of tp, etc. complaints piling up, but it's the fault of granting such powers to these people on a server where there's PvP and stealing allowed.

    I never had trouble with it so far, until today, while I was renovating my shop in spawn. I had to move my stuff lower because I'm installing lava in the floor, so I had to move all my storage chests + insides.

    I blocked off the entrance, making it realistic impossible for anyone to enter the building.

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    While /cprivating my forges, I was suddenly pushed aside, turning around, player sieve was standing behind me, looking around. I was telling him to get the fuck out, but he was way more busy checking my stuff, especially trying to open every chest I had.

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    I was really lucky that I locked them before, which wouldn't have been necessary yet as like I said my space was fenced off. I had to tell him several times, and once he figured out there's nothing to take, he flew into the first store and then finally outside.

    This should be a complaint about sieve, and the possibility for Donors to access an area that they are very well not supposed, or allowed to access.
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    Post by sieve 2011-04-14, 12:25

    1: I don't have permission to open chests in spawn anyway
    2: you are stupid
    3: what does it matter if I go into a store out of curiosity
    4: I left as soon as you told me to
    5: stealing is legal anyway
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    Post by Adriox 2011-04-14, 12:36

    sieve wrote:1: I don't have permission to open chests in spawn anyway
    2: you are stupid
    3: what does it matter if I go into a store out of curiosity
    4: I left as soon as you told me to
    5: stealing is legal anyway

    This post just proves your immatureness. Curiosity is no reason to get yourself access into other peoples building. Stealing is only allowed if you have full access towards the treasure and don't create yourself one eg. griefing or teleporting. Try to speak in sentences instead of summarizing everything up like a douche.
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-14, 12:37

    he did nothing wrong, he didnt take anything either. donators having /tp causes no harm and we well know that if we abuse it we get demoted or banned.
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    Post by Adriox 2011-04-14, 12:49

    Monstaboi wrote: donators having /tp causes no harm

    Except the fact that you can teleport anywhere in attempt to steal?
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    Post by Ciphon 2011-04-14, 13:39

    That's not a problem if you lock your chests now is it? Please stop complaining, if your stuff is safe you shouldn't be worrying
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-14, 13:54

    Besides, we cant use our donator powers to steal anyway.
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    Post by Onlyme 2011-04-14, 14:26

    The problem with these situations, is that it's a case of "He said... and HE said..".

    However, the entrance was clearly blocked off. Common sense dictates that whoever built it doesn't want anyone to enter. So what do you do in this situation? Don't fucking enter!


    Just be responsible with your donator powers, and be courteous. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am tired of hearing this shit.
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    Post by Adriox 2011-04-14, 14:33

    onlyme wrote:However, the entrance was clearly blocked off. Common sense dictates that whoever built it doesn't want anyone to enter. So what do you do in this situation? Don't fucking enter!


    Just be responsible with your donator powers, and be courteous. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am tired of hearing this shit.

    That is exactly what I'm trying to point out between this storm of incoming self-righteousness Donors.
    And while you read all these posts you can clearly say that they're not responsible, in their point of view there was no mistake, and because they've spent money they can do anything at all as long as the server doesn't stop them.
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-04-14, 14:37

    Am I self-righteous? No? Is it because I actually READ the FAQ at spawn and not just donated as soon as can be just to have more power over someone. With all due respect, that seems to be the case with all these new donators. I mean yeah they are helping fund the server but...It's just terribad.
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-04-14, 14:44

    There are two types of donors:
    1) The donor that did so because they like the server and want to be supportive of it.
    2) The donor that did so because they want the 1337 Haxx0rz 5k7llz, yo.

    We used to get mostly Type 1 (such as myself and a few others).
    Lately though, especially since the new map, Type 2 tends to be prevalent.

    Really makes a bad name for those of us that are helpful.
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-04-14, 14:54

    Yeah, I mean I played ths server for a while, to see if it was good and once I earned enough money to. I did. I'm not gonna let this server pass me by.
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    Post by Onlyme 2011-04-14, 14:57

    Rulyon wrote:There are two types of donors:
    1) The donor that did so because they like the server and want to be supportive of it.
    2) The donor that did so because they want the 1337 Haxx0rz 5k7llz, yo.

    We used to get mostly Type 1 (such as myself and a few others).
    Lately though, especially since the new map, Type 2 tends to be prevalent.

    Really makes a bad name for those of us that are helpful.

    I completely agree.

    A quote from the donator page on orcowrm.co.uk
    However, please note that donating will not mean you're allowed to disobey any of the server rules or treat players any differently than you normally would. If you're found to be breaking a rule you will be punished just like anyone else. You're donating to support the server, not to 'purchase' the commands...

    This means that these commands are not the objective of the donations. They are there to recognize you helping the server. If you abuse your "privilages", they can and probably will be removed.

    tl;dr
    Don't be a dick with donator powers. It will bite you in the ass.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-04-14, 14:59

    Rulyon wrote:There are two types of donors:
    1) The donor that did so because they like the server and want to be supportive of it.
    2) The donor that did so because they want the 1337 Haxx0rz 5k7llz, yo.

    We used to get mostly Type 1 (such as myself and a few others).
    Lately though, especially since the new map, Type 2 tends to be prevalent.

    Really makes a bad name for those of us that are helpful.

    I'm the latter. :3

    Of course, when/if I donate again, it will be for reason 1, but I'll likely give someone else the credit so they can have donator power as well.
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-04-14, 15:01

    Also, I might just abuse donator powa just to get bit in the ass from onlyme. Lol.
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-04-14, 15:02

    I donated because
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-04-14, 15:23

    Get pwnd.

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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-14, 16:44

    I thought plots in spawn were only available for donators...how did a member get one anyway?

    And yeah, sieve abuses this stuff whenever he thinks he can get away with it. Earlier he tried to kill me using magic carpet three times, failed each time, and then TPed to me twice in 30 seconds, all of the time trying to kill me. There are some donators like him that you should just expect to abuse their powers.

    Keep a bucket of lava with you, and then if he enters again you can drop it on him. That's the only way to fight back in a non-Pvp area.
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-04-14, 19:38

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    Hmmph.

    Does nobody listen to what I say around here?

    Yarwood wrote:
    1. If you tp to somebody without permission and they don't want you there. Leave.
    2. If you tp to somebody's base/property/creation without permission, they have every right to /tphere you to spawn.
    3. If you tp to somebody without permission, they have every right to kill you instantly.


    However, in this case, it was in the spawn, and not in the middle of nowhere, but the above 3 rules still apply to that Razz
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-14, 23:23

    Vespasian wrote:I thought plots in spawn were only available for donators...how did a member get one anyway?


    There's a fee of 5k for a plot there now, donators may use their free zone to 'purchase' a plot and avoid the fee.
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    Post by Adriox 2011-04-14, 23:54

    Yarwood wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

    Hmmph.

    Does nobody listen to what I say around here?

    Yarwood wrote:
    1. If you tp to somebody without permission and they don't want you there. Leave.
    2. If you tp to somebody's base/property/creation without permission, they have every right to /tphere you to spawn.
    3. If you tp to somebody without permission, they have every right to kill you instantly.


    However, in this case, it was in the spawn, and not in the middle of nowhere, but the above 3 rules still apply to that Razz

    Let me quote again what onlyme pointed out perfectly.
    "However, the entrance was clearly blocked off. Common sense dictates that whoever built it doesn't want anyone to enter. So what do you do in this situation? Don't fucking enter!"
    I have closed it entirely off making it impossible to enter, and clearly saying I don't want anyone to enter.
    But yet they are allowed to enter until I tell them no? That's just utter bullshit. Secondly I can't be there 24/7 to tell them to get out so they don't peek around where they're not supposed to.

    I also understand that some of the donors are there to support the server, but there's also that second, abusive type like being said, and I don't see how pissing off rest of the players with the "bought" commands is supporting in any way.
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    Post by Ciphon 2011-04-15, 00:02

    I use my Donator powers to explore and if I see someone I don't know ofcourse I'm gonna check out what they are doing (making sure they aren't griefers and such), but certainly I agree with yarwooduk's rules
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-04-15, 05:56

    sieve wrote:1: I don't have permission to open chests in spawn anyway
    2: you are stupid
    3: what does it matter if I go into a store out of curiosity
    4: I left as soon as you told me to
    5: stealing is legal anyway

    1: You're right here.
    2: This is irrelevant.
    3: He ain't finished it.
    4: Mmkay.
    5: Not if ya tellied to get there. That only applies to if you LEGITIMATELY got in. TPing to someone and stealing from unprotected chests =/= legitimate. You have to have entered the house legitimately.

    I'm only posting this because I get yelled at a lot for teleporting to people and get accused of things because of that. YOU actually did what I am always accused of, and never do. Don't teleport to someone and attempt to rob them -_-"
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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-15, 08:21

    Orcworm wrote:
    Vespasian wrote:I thought plots in spawn were only available for donators...how did a member get one anyway?


    There's a fee of 5k for a plot there now, donators may use their free zone to 'purchase' a plot and avoid the fee.

    I'll take 4 plots for 20k gil. Very Happy
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-15, 08:36

    Lol.
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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-15, 09:11

    What, are we only allowed one or something? Very Happy
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    Post by Guest 2011-04-15, 09:26

    I have this to say:
    I personally think the temp-server WAS THE MOST RETARDED IDEA EVER!! I mean has anyone noticed the number of new, more prolific greifers, the larger amounts of hacks, etc.
    Also things that were considered taboo in the old map now arent (for instance sitting outside of someones house to ambush them, has become mre common)
    Thats all I have to say.
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    Post by Ciphon 2011-04-15, 10:24

    lol, the temp server was a great way for me to vent my feelings by killing and griefing people =)
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    Post by redjello 2011-04-15, 10:43

    Demon_Cat wrote:lol, the temp server was a great way for me to vent my feelings by killing and griefing people =)

    +1 and now perhaps back to the topic?
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    Post by sieve 2011-04-16, 10:05

    I think it was more the fact tht we dont have everything we want like we used to more then it was the temp server

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