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    Post by GIEFF 2011-04-24, 17:24

    Friends, this is a video game. Let's get a little perspective, act like adults, and be amicable.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-24, 17:52

    Right.... Anyone who want to leave 8-bit/the zone (which looking at those chatconvo's seem to be Red and ZuWrath) can do so. If they want then all their contributions to the base can be rolled back.

    Pope: if you are not VERY carefully I'm kicking you out of the zone too/ban from the server. Privacy is one of the highest things on the forum and posting the real names and saying you don't give a fuck isn't acceptable.

    Now before going on let's make a nice tally of who's in who's camp shall we? ANY 8-bit member who is NOT listed MUST declare in which camp he/she wishes to belong. The largest and/or least-trolliest camp gets the zone (and thus base). Anyone who wishes to switch camp can of course do so too.

    In the mean time, everyone NOT on the impartial list has been booted from the zone. This to counter all "semi-grief" that has been going on and has been done after consulting PureCraft. The sooner the (ex-)8Bit Legion members declare their wishes, the sooner the surviving members will be restored to the zone.

    Camp 1:
    Vespasian, E_Karney
    Camp 2:
    IMIR, Pope
    Leaving:
    RedJello, ZuWrath, PureCraft
    Impartial (stays with the current base regardless of camp):
    Some_ranger1


    Edit: And no trolling (understandable as it is) please


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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-25, 00:00

    Right.

    Vespasian, Canuck and Some_Ranger are leaving the 'group', taking their zones with them. ZuWrath is apparently going to pay for the remainder of the zone with those three no longer part of it.

    The three that're leaving want to be rolled back completely within the zone, excluding the single complete tower which they wish to be copied to another area of the map where one donator zone will be used to cover it, giving canuck one spare donator zone.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-25, 00:11

    And the story twists and turns again. From the PM's and in-game chat I got Redjello and Wrath are the ones actually leaving the zone.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-25, 00:13

    What about rolling the whole thing back and distributing zones as necessary? >_>
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-25, 00:14

    Fine with me, though it's a bit assholish for the 8-Bit members that have nothing to do with this DRAMA.
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-04-25, 01:31

    FillerB wrote:And the story twists and turns again. From the PM's and in-game chat I got Redjello and Wrath are the ones actually leaving the zone.

    A loooot has happened since anyone has PMed you. The way it is right now:

    Camp 1
    [Donator] vespasian
    [Donator] Canuck
    [Member] some_ranger1

    Camp 2
    [Member] pope
    [Donator] redjello
    [Donator] ZuWrath
    [Admin] PureCraft
    [Donator] IMIR31D
    [Member] Wolfe
    [Member] DoughnutSpanker
    [Member] Easymerc

    These camps are made based on who is leaving the 8-bit Legion, and who is staying.

    Camp 1 is the group that Mark listed last night in Skype when he said he was leaving the 8-bit Legion.
    Camp 2 is the group of people decided that if Mark wants to leave, then he should just leave.

    There was a Skype call last night where conclusions were made. Vespasian said, straight up, that he was leaving. He continued to say he isn't going to listen to people who say "shut the f___ up" to him, and left the call after saying, "I'm leaving the group. I'm taking all my shit with me."

    We have told him he's evicted and has 2 days to leave.

    Several times, Vespasian told us that he disrespects people who will say "Shut the f___ up" over the internet...

    [4:26:32 PM] Gareth Reid <IMIR31D>: mark there was a vot of the masjoprity of higharchy
    [4:26:40 PM] Mark: IMIR, youve been in the group 2 days, honestly, STFU

    Something wrong with this hypocrisy.

    Anyway. Last night, over Skype, Mark made his final decision: He is leaving the base, not us.

    Filler, just for the sake of your measurements: Camp 2 obviously has the most players.

    EDIT: Needed to add some more important people that I forgot to add to the list.


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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-25, 01:35

    Problem with that list is that it goes straight against every I received from individual players till now. Redjello, PureCraft AND you have all made it perfectly clear that you want to leave the zone.

    But fine, if the individual members on those lists can confirm this then I'm more than willing to rollback their parts of the base.

    And for FUCK sake what do you people not understand about privacy?
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-04-25, 01:38

    Problem with the private messages you received is they were sent during the time when we got fed up with vespasian and wanted to leave really badly, as I said before. But in the end, it came to vespasian wanting to leave, himself.

    A lot happened in a couple of hours.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-25, 01:47

    We can see private PMs, I also think we can see /msg ingame, but if someone decides to use Skype; there must be a reason for it... And you shouldn't be posting that here.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-25, 03:15

    with all regards to "privacy", you guys don't make anything clear in the rules do you -_-. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

    and btw the logs that i posted were private, until vesp and red posted them to the conversation.

    proof of full conversation
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-25, 03:39

    Are you serious? Do we seriously have to explicitily state that posting the real names of anonymous persons without their consent isn't allowed? Ever heard about basic ethics?
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-25, 03:40

    pope2142 wrote:with all regards to "privacy", you guys don't make anything clear in the rules do you -_-. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

    I would've thought it would fall under common sense more than a set of rules...
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-04-25, 03:46

    I honestly don't see a problem with posting someone's first name publicly, ya know? But, I mean, vespasian didn't have a problem with me posting his name in all chat until just recently, so yeah.

    Anyway, I digress.

    Can we get some talking done on the topic at hand, please?
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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-25, 05:07

    FillerB wrote:Are you serious? Do we seriously have to explicitily state that posting the real names of anonymous persons without their consent isn't allowed? Ever heard about basic ethics?

    Why do you think I'm leaving the group? Pope assumed control of the group after Ranger became less active. He repeatedly called me a "traitor" on skype for TALKING to people on the list, like Wee77snaw. Him and Redjello said that people on the list were ENEMIES that must not be talked to. It was like I was in the North Korean military and had been seen being friendly with South Koreans. Pope repeatedly told me to shut the fuck up on Skype when I told him that him and Red were way too serious, and that I wasn't going to be interrogated on how I play Minecraft. When I told him that I don't talk to people who tell me to shut the fuck up, let alone take goddamn "commands" from them on a videogame he said either do it or leave the group.

    Since him and redjello clearly changed their minds on leaving the group, I am therefore leaving the group. To put it kindly, they are people with very serious social issues. Pope must have some real serious issues to have to try to command people to do things in a videogame. Several times he told me to read something he posted outloud, as if he was my commanding officer or something. Oh, and halfway through his rant he was interrupted because his mom was shouting for him to take out the trash or something. Says a lot about his maturity levels in general.

    Redjello on the other hand I just found incredibly annoying in general, as did Ranger, E_Karney, and Canuck268. But of course by now Redjello and Pope had illegally, without votes, brought in so many new members that they outnumbered us. Fair enough, they can have the group, but without the contributions we made it's nothing anyway.

    As for privacy, I never gave Pope permission to post the logs on a public forum, of course. I posted them in a PRIVATE conversation. Of course Pope, and zuwrath for agreeing with him, clearly have no respect for privacy or much in general. Zuwrath repeatedly used my name in-game, when I told him not to. Of course, as I said, it was my fault for sharing my real name with people who were clearly idiots in the first place.
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    Post by canuck268 2011-04-25, 05:21

    OKAY!!!! i have not been on in 6 days!! i dont know whats going on and i didnt agree on anything about leaving, or doing anything like thats. I am very good friends with Vespasian and i got his back, but i dont agree with splitting the gourp up. settle our differences and stop being babies u guys like seriously. this is just a game and what we had working out was good... Zu and red, i have no idea whats been said about u guys, but maybe things are taken too seriously with you.. like cmon its a game things dont need to be too realistic because eventually this game will be meaningless to you and what will you have accomplished? nothing... so just ave fun and dont be political. Secondly, i dont appreciate being locked out of my things, because thats a dick move whoever did so... and about the donators zoning the base, i feel those who have donated, and worked on the base heavily should decided its fate. Vespasian and I have worked our asses off with the wall and thats been the major part. as for the inside its a group effort so.. i dont know how thats gunna be resolved... Anyways... dont be babies everyone like u really all sound like idiots to me right now... didnt before.. now u do hahaha, u can change it by ACTING NORMAL. so i suggest u do so
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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-25, 05:33

    FillerB wrote:Fine with me, though it's a bit assholish for the 8-Bit members that have nothing to do with this DRAMA.

    Just roll back the stuff of the people who end up leaving. Like I said, I built far more than most of the other members, Ranger built the second most with mob spawners. If I hadn't been part of the group, there would be no wall, no towers, and pretty much no money either.

    I can't think of a single big project Pope built or anything serious he ever contributed, but he was still co-leader for some reason. My mistake for agreeing to have a hierarchy in the first place. I thought with Ranger as co-leader and me as second in command, nothing bad could happen.

    But yeah, as I said before, I'm not staying in a group with people who have such power-control issues that they try to give me commands and tell me to shut the fuck up on skype when i tell them that they're taking Minecraft too seriously. They can take it as seriously as they want by themselves.

    Oh, and I might mention that these are the same people who were repeatedly bothering the other members about not being online or in Skype enough. They told Ranger that he wasn't online enough to be leader because he actually had a job. (most of the others don't, apparently). During my university exams, redjello repeatedly messaged me asking what my "excuse" for not being online was. Clearly stuff like jobs and exams aren't as important as being on Minecraft and in skype 10 hours a day, right.

    So yeah, you can see why I won't be being in the same group with these kind of people.
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-25, 05:38

    Minecraft is a game. Just remember this, everyone.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-25, 05:40

    Vespasian wrote:
    FillerB wrote:Are you serious? Do we seriously have to explicitily state that posting the real names of anonymous persons without their consent isn't allowed? Ever heard about basic ethics?

    Why do you think I'm leaving the group? Pope assumed control of the group after Ranger became less active. He repeatedly called me a "traitor" on skype for TALKING to people on the list, like Wee77snaw. Him and Redjello said that people on the list were ENEMIES that must not be talked to. It was like I was in the North Korean military and had been seen being friendly with South Koreans. Pope repeatedly told me to shut the fuck up on Skype when I told him that him and Red were way too serious, and that I wasn't going to be interrogated on how I play Minecraft. When I told him that I don't talk to people who tell me to shut the fuck up, let alone take goddamn "commands" from them on a videogame he said either do it or leave the group.

    Since him and redjello clearly changed their minds on leaving the group, I am therefore leaving the group. To put it kindly, they are people with very serious social issues. Pope must have some real serious issues to have to try to command people to do things in a videogame. Several times he told me to read something he posted outloud, as if he was my commanding officer or something. Oh, and halfway through his rant he was interrupted because his mom was shouting for him to take out the trash or something. Says a lot about his maturity levels in general.

    Redjello on the other hand I just found incredibly annoying in general, as did Ranger, E_Karney, and Canuck268. But of course by now Redjello and Pope had illegally, without votes, brought in so many new members that they outnumbered us. Fair enough, they can have the group, but without the contributions we made it's nothing anyway.

    As for privacy, I never gave Pope permission to post the logs on a public forum, of course. I posted them in a PRIVATE conversation. Of course Pope, and zuwrath for agreeing with him, clearly have no respect for privacy or much in general. Zuwrath repeatedly used my name in-game, when I told him not to. Of course, as I said, it was my fault for sharing my real name with people who were clearly idiots in the first place.

    My favorite part is when you stretch what I said making me the "bad guy" + the main reason i "commanded" you is because you would not listen. I repeatedly asked you if you would "inform" me when you talked to ppl on the list. And I made you say the word "inform" for the fact that you kept saying that you needed permission to talk to someone, or some garbage like that. "He repeatedly called me a "traitor"" another good part is that you think i said that, when in fact i stated "I heard rumors of you being a traitor".
    Pope repeatedly told me to shut the fuck up on Skype when I told him that him and Red were way too serious, and that I wasn't going to be interrogated on how I play Minecraft. When I told him that I don't talk to people who tell me to shut the fuck up
    If you were being interrupted and the other guy was reiterating the same thing every other argument I think I should be quite able to say that. And btw if it was an interrogation I would've been alot more strict with you.
    As for privacy, I never gave Pope permission to post the logs on a public forum, of course. I posted them in a PRIVATE conversation.
    as I do agree that I did F*** up about posting them, the fact that every1 else in the room but you agreed for this to be posted, then I'd say It's more of evidence then an excuse of privacy breaking to me.
    as if he was my commanding officer or something. Oh, and halfway through his rant he was interrupted because his mom was shouting for him to take out the trash or something. Says a lot about his maturity levels in general.
    If I am a co leader should i be ignored? and whats with my mom interrupting the convo? So what if I'm a 18 yr. old who is on the 3rd story of a house so I have to leave to see what she needs, and what does that have to do with maturity? For the fact that your over-stretching realism is something to be said.

    OKAY!!!! i have not been on in 6 days!! i dont know whats going on and i didnt agree on anything about leaving, or doing anything like thats. I am very good friends with Vespasian and i got his back, but i dont agree with splitting the gourp up. settle our differences and stop being babies u guys like seriously. this is just a game and what we had working out was good... Zu and red, i have no idea whats been said about u guys, but maybe things are taken too seriously with you.. like cmon its a game things dont need to be too realistic because eventually this game will be meaningless to you and what will you have accomplished? nothing... so just ave fun and dont be political. Secondly, i dont appreciate being locked out of my things, because thats a dick move whoever did so... and about the donators zoning the base, i feel those who have donated, and worked on the base heavily should decided its fate. Vespasian and I have worked our asses off with the wall and thats been the major part. as for the inside its a group effort so.. i dont know how thats gunna be resolved... Anyways... dont be babies everyone like u really all sound like idiots to me right now... didnt before.. now u do hahaha, u can change it by ACTING NORMAL. so i suggest u do so
    as i can agree completely with all of that, it seems vesp dosn't because he can't talk or settle grounds with ppl that tell him to "stfu", so it's more his call then mine.

    I can't think of a single big project Pope built or anything serious he ever contributed, but he was still co-leader for some reason.

    But yeah, as I said before, I'm not staying in a group with people who have such power-control issues that they try to give me commands and tell me to shut the fuck up on skype when i tell them that they're taking Minecraft too seriously. They can take it as seriously as they want by themselves. Oh, and I might mention that these are the same people who were repeatedly bothered the other members about not being online or in Skype enough.

    If you didn't know, your not the only one with a life, and if ur still wondering why i did, you just reiterated youself on the forums -_-.
    They told Ranger that he wasn't online enough to be leader because he actually had a job. (most of the others don't, apparently).
    Could you please blow this out of proportion more? we said we had more info on the groups status then him because he wasn't on.
    During my university exams, redjello repeatedly messaged me asking what my "excuse" for not being online was. Clearly stuff like jobs and exams aren't as important as being on Minecraft and in skype 10 hours a day, right.
    I'm sorry to say but that part asking for the "excuse" was understood after the fact that you said you had exams. and the fact that I'm on a lot doesn't exactly mean anything.


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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-25, 05:48

    pope2142 wrote:

    My favorite part is when you stretch what I said making me the "bad guy" + the main reason i "commanded you is because you would not listen. I repeatedly asked you if you would "inform" me when you talked to ppl on the list. And I made you say the word "inform" for the fact that you kept saying that you needed permission to talk to someone, or some garbage like that. "He repeatedly called me a "traitor"" another good part is that you think i said that, when in fact i stated "I heard rumors or you being a traitor".

    There ya go. Pope and redjello considered me a potential "traitor" in fucking MINECRAFT because I was on good terms with people on the list. And you know, the list being half the server, my fault for not avoiding people on the list like they were lepers or something. Here is the proof that pope and the others take this game way, way too seriously. Calling people traitors over a group in a videogame? What exactly is wrong with you that you think that's reasonable?

    If you were being interrupted and the other guy was reiterating the same thing every other argument I think I should be quite able to say that. And btw if it was an interrogation I would've been alot more strict with you.
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    Here's the thing pope, you are quite able to tell people to shut the fuck up, and they are quite able to tell you that you're a douchebag and not want to have anything to do with you. As I said before, plenty of immature morons such as yourself have sworn at me over the INTERNET, but noone has actually done it in real life, because there would be real consequences. Go up to the next person you see on the street and tell them to shut the fuck up. Next thing you know they'll be beating the shit out of you. It's hilarious that you think I ever gave you any kind of authority for being the "co-leader" in a videogame group that I never took seriously, just because you did.



    I can't think of a single big project Pope built or anything serious he ever contributed, but he was still co-leader for some reason.


    And apparently pope can't think of a major contribution that he made to the group either, because there weren't any. It was mostly calling people "traitors" and "blasphemers" on Skype for daring to talk to people on the list. (and yes, him and redjello actually used both of those words,100% seriously.)

    After the skype convo, Ranger said that anyone who talked to him like that (giving him orders, telling him to shut the fuck up repeatedly) would have been instantly deleted from Skype and never talked to again. That's what I should have done immediately, I regret waiting and being patient and lenient at all. As of now, I'm ignoring you,redjello and zuwrath on the forums, I'm done with your immaturity. Have fun with the group that all 3 of you contributed extremely little toward, with the exception of zuwrath spawn killing a couple hundred guests (and somehow getting killed 100 times in the process), redjello pissing off half the people in the server, and pope doing...uh nothing.
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-25, 05:55

    "edit" much? why is there a double post of the same thing? ^

    Is there any1 else in or not in the group that thinks his logic is flawed? or is it just me?

    but noone has actually done it in real life, because there would be real consequences.
    what you going to jail for attempting to kick someone's ass? deal with the real world dumbass


    And apparently pope can't think of a major contribution that he made to the group either, because there weren't any. It was mostly calling people "traitors" and "blasphemers" on Skype for daring to talk to people on the list. (and yes, him and redjello actually used both of those words,100% seriously.)
    no you aren't serious, because yet you still fail to see that I made the call to cover up the rumors. but the fact that you never denied but instead pushed away doesn't help your standing.


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    Post by canuck268 2011-04-25, 05:56

    im not reading all that are u kidding me? lol
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    Post by pope2142 2011-04-25, 06:00

    lol, you can if you want to Razz
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    Post by GIEFF 2011-04-25, 06:06

    Vespasian wrote:Pope must have some real serious issues to have to try to command people to do things in a videogame.

    You are a hypocrite, my friend. Or do you not remember badgering me to kill MonstaBoi for over 15 minutes, and when I kept refusing, you threatening to come kill me over and over again? You are a big silly.
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-25, 06:10

    I only didnt like 8-bit because of redjello and vespasian, everyone else wasnt a complete and total dick so i had no problem with anyone else.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-25, 06:31

    Right, I'll roll Vespasian and Canuck back, and paste the tower nearby to be moved later.
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    Post by redjello 2011-04-25, 07:10

    Is there a reason i've had my permissions removed from the 8 bit legion zone? It would be nice if the admin who did it would have asked me my opinion before he took action. Some responsibility from the admins would be a real benefit when theres people going around spreading rumors and bending the truth like they are. All i'm saying is can you get the whole facts before taking action because now I have to rework the base and i've been removed from the zone
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-04-25, 07:11

    Didn't look through the log for that, instead added Some_Ranger1 as the zone owner to handle re-adding.
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    Post by Vespasian 2011-04-25, 07:57

    Thanks Orc. I'll find a good spot for the tower.

    Lol at the entire wall now being a bunch of cobble floating in mid-air. Looks like the "group" was really "me, canuck, ranger and a bunch of people who didn't build anything."
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    Post by FillerB 2011-04-25, 08:02

    redjello wrote:Is there a reason i've had my permissions removed from the 8 bit legion zone? It would be nice if the admin who did it would have asked me my opinion before he took action.

    I love how you people read the thread.
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-04-25, 08:36

    Just let me know when I can lock this BS Drama Fest. I'm sick of having to read through the new posts everyday in what amounts to teenage immaturity.
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-04-25, 08:48

    I'd say it's pretty much over Smile
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-04-25, 08:49

    i think there needs to be some updating done to the OP lol
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-04-25, 09:09

    It makes it more humorous imo to leave it as is for the OP. :3
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    Post by some_ranger1 2011-04-25, 10:36

    Rulyon wrote:Just let me know when I can lock this BS Drama Fest. I'm sick of having to read through the new posts everyday in what amounts to teenage immaturity.
    this is a new post for you to read through
    Hi. Laughing
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-04-25, 10:42

    Can I lock? I'd rather not without permission as I am a noobie.
    I'm kind of tired of this too.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-25, 10:45

    Go ahead; don't ask, just act. If you do something wrong, we'll let you know.
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-04-25, 10:48

    alright, will do.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-25, 11:00

    YOU DID IT WRONG! Lol, JK.
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-04-25, 11:02

    FYI this is my second locked topic.
    I assume posting in locked topics is bad so...
    But it does anger the the "peons" as you call them...
    oh and btw I know what the "list" is.
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    Post by Pete 2011-04-25, 11:03

    Note that I've never called them Peons. True, I dislike most of them, but that doesn't mean they're not important. Also, posting on locked threads... IDK, but master Ruly might get angry. :3

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