peter porty

Peterporty set his /home in our closed off zoned area and is stealing items as we break them

As said by fillerB, also yarwood has made a similar statement.

"Alright let's get a simple to follow guide here on the above.

Step 1) Someone has entered your property
Step 2) You ask him to leave on a friendly tone.
Step 3a) You try to kill him in PvP-combat.
or
Step 3b) You tphere him to spawn.

Skipping step 2 means using tphere on him is command abuse and will result in a demotion. The trespasser needs to actually be aware that he is trespassing."

In theory, yeah; it was a dick move from myself. Then again; my /home was there before that piece of land was zoned, and it's really your fault for not having a walled area.

If you're going to cite a precedence (not a solid rule) then be sure you actually follow it.

Mon Apr 25 07:25:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: peterporty you do not have permission for this area and i'm kicking you out

isn't exactly asking him to leave on a friendly tone now is it.

Next.

FillerB wrote:If you're going to cite a precedence (not a solid rule) then be sure you actually follow it.

Mon Apr 25 07:25:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: peterporty you do not have permission for this area and i'm kicking you out

isn't exactly asking him to leave on a friendly tone now is it.

Next.

Skipping step 2 means using tphere on him is command abuse and will result in a demotion. The trespasser needs to actually be aware that he is trespassing."

Next?

He clearly knew he was trespassing and how is it not a friendly tone? If you found somebody on your land, would you offer them a drink whilst they leave?

OFC I would, specially considering it was zoned without PVP.

But you knew you were trespassing the other 4 times you /homed' after both myself and redjello /tp'd you to spawn.

Locked btw.

You just lock something when you're not happy with the result? Psh... Also, it was my /home, so I see no reason not to go there.

I locked it to save myself reading bullshit replies, and it's pretty much solved, what more can be said?

IDK, you guys were complaining, I assumed you wanted to get something? Also, how the hell did you get so many pumpkins? I mean, it was a huge zone full of them.

It was solved in-game within minutes of the complaint being posted.

Also, I logged onto Orc's account and worldedited them, I don't think anybody noticed though

Growbie works wonders. :3 (use dat bonemeal)

O wow. Why WE pumpkins?

You logged into Orc's account to WE pumpkins for your base? And you complain about me being inside some un-walled but zoned region? Psh... People these days.

Yeah, whilst I was there I also filled my chests with diamond blocks whilst advertising his password on youtube.

Oh I'm sorry, I thought this topic turned into a trolling competition after the 2nd post?

Ya'll need to chill the fuck out.

Just sayin. :3

Ya kidding me right? "This is my unwalled zoned area that takes up like 2% of the map. Get out or I'll kick you out." How is that friendly?

Alternatives that spring to mind:
"Pete, would you please leave this Area?"
"Pete, would you be so kind to leave this base as you aren't welcome"
"Pete, please vacate this area as this is private property."

Why should somebody have to say "please" to somebody on their land.

The part where PP was in is actually walled.

Slight exaggeration on the "Get out or I'll kick you out".

After being tp'd to spawn the first time, you'd think he would get the message, yet he came back and stood in the way of our mining to gain the materials being dropped.

Materials you also WE for your personal gain... But other than that; your entrance was all f'd up; it looked like someone had TNT'd it.

PetePorty wrote:Materials you also WE for your personal gain... But other than that; your entrance was all f'd up; it looked like someone had TNT'd it.

Are you fucking kidding me, I mean come on.

That's a really weird way of argumentation, but... Ok.

he was in the the closed off area within the closed off area i did not politely ask him to leave however i did not rudely ask him to leave either. He was clearly in the wrong as the rules stated by fillerb and by yarwood whom are both admins. Even though fillerb turned around and tried to hide the fact that he did indeed say what he said those are the rules listed by the admins and it is what was followed. Why are you all still trolling and why does orcworm let things like this persist?

Yarwood wrote:Why should somebody have to say "please" to somebody on their land.

The part where PP was in is actually walled.

Slight exaggeration on the "Get out or I'll kick you out".

After being tp'd to spawn the first time, you'd think he would get the message, yet he came back and stood in the way of our mining to gain the materials being dropped.

Read the precedent Red has digged up from Rana knows where. It clearly states is has to be in a friendly tone. "and I'm kicking you out." isn't friendly. Not even going into the idea that Pete might even have left VOLUNTARY is asked to.

And for at least the THIRD time, neither Yarwood nor I nor any other admin MAKE the rules. Only Orc does. What you are referring to was a precedent in a certain situation.

Well, I did say my move was dickish, but... Sincerely? You don't think what you did was wrong?

a) Abusing the owner's account to your personal gain.
b) Teleporting people to places without their consent.

Edit: And yet you decide to complain against me? Please...

Does any of what you're saying actually make a difference or are you just posting for the hell of it? What was said applies to this situation directly. he was stealing items as they were broken in a clear attempt to cause an annoyance you are defending him on the grounds that i did not ask him to leave politely enough

PS orcworm himself rolled back the area and those were pumpkins vespasian broke you may now stop posting since you have litterally no grounds to defend your self on.

Do you guys have to argue about everything? It's getting pretty boring.

both fillerb and peterporty have a grudge against me and a few other people they're drying their damned hardest to get us banned over it orcworm.

Lol, yes I do... See what the problem is here; I did accept what I did was wrong (no against the rules, but dickish) while you think you've done nothing wrong. You people kept teleporting me out of my /home. Sure, the power abuse with WE has nothing to do with this situation in particular, but still.

EDIT: Well, Orc: You decided to mute me for nothing, and then said "for annoying Yarwood". What kind of reason is that? Come on, you didn't even listen to what the problem was. When I /msg'd you to solve the problem your answer was "/msg Yarwood instead of me". I understand that you might be tired/bored/whatever, but sincerely, if you don't want to deal with the problem, just don't.

Sigh.... Red you are clearly not reading not between the lines.

I COULD tempban Pete for his dickmove
I COULD tempban you for command abuse.
I DIDN'T do either, despite you appointing me as Pete's accomplice in crime for some reason, because you are BOTH in the wrong.

And seriously Yarwood, try to think a bit before going on WE-sprees/blabbing your mouth off.

1 you made your home in our base
2 the pumpkins were rolled back as for vespasians request and orcworms acknowledgement
3 You're a troll
4 I did in no way rudely ask peterporty to leave and I consider what I said to be polite considering the circumstance of what he was doing.
5 Stop trolling
6 Orcworm I beg of you to take some power of this situation and tell us all what you have decided so this can stop.

Orc takes a shower because of his "hair" right now, stay tuned

Also, I logged onto Orc's account and worldedited them, I don't think anybody noticed though

Yeah, whilst I was there I also filled my chests with diamond blocks whilst advertising his password on youtube.

I would've thought that was obvious enough...

I don't know why this thread even exists, nevermind why it's nearing it's third page. Porty was silenced after he tried to spin some story by me, unsilenced him and that was the end of it.

PureCraft wrote:Orc takes a shower because of his "hair" right now, stay tuned

After I'm finished with this mess ;p.

Hence why I locked it, but he carried on trolling :p

1.- My home was there way before the place was even zoned.
2.- Yet you people were mining them.
3.- Ad Hominem much?
4.- It's not about asking rudely or not; if you had your zone open and all, you can't expect people not to go in just because you want to. YOUR dick move was to TP people without their consent.
5.- As soon as you do so. Of course, I'm not trolling now, so... yeah.
6.- Yeah this is not directed at me, but I agree with it.

EDIT: People post too fast. >.< I'm not trolling mate, we both acted wrong yet you guys decided to accuse me. Next time think of what you've done first.

You were standing in the way whilst we were mining in a completely walled off area.

Would you also expect us to say "Please kind sir, stop taking our items and leave" ?

I don't see, in anyway possible, how I'm in the wrong for tp'ing you to spawn? You were doing nothing productive at the time and attempting to take the items we were mining.

As I said in the first couple of posts, this was solved within minutes of the original complaint being posted, thus locked, and I mean locked.

Fine, if you want to play it this way....

Point 1:
Mon Apr 25 07:25:17 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: /tphere peter
Mon Apr 25 07:38:29 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : PeterPorty: /sethome

So he set his home AFTER you kicked him from the area. Clearly he must have had his home there before these shenanigans. Why is this only a problem now?

Point 2:
Then why did Orc not do it himself while he was busy rolling back stuff?

Point 3:
He didn't say a word besides "lol" before your threat

Point 4:
"peterporty you do not have permission for this area and i'm kicking you out" is a statement and not a polite request for Pete to leave your area. And I honestly can't see why you haven't tried doing just that. It helps wonders.

Point 5:
Really now?

Point 6:
... yeah I got nothing on that.

posting cause my lip moves while i laugh

Point 1 - We had no idea his home was there, we'd never seen him in the area before.
Mon Apr 25 07:25:17 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: /tphere peter
Mon Apr 25 07:26:49 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : YarwoodUK: /tphere PeterPorty
Mon Apr 25 07:30:54 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: /tphere peter
Mon Apr 25 07:31:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : YarwoodUK: /tphere peterporty

Anybody else would've got the message after the first time and a /kick, surely

Should I also re-quote this, incase you missed it?

Would you also expect us to say "Please kind sir, stop taking our items and leave" ?

Griefing - Harassment.
Peter was harassing us.
Oops.

I wasn't harassing you; I was in no way making your gaming experience worse, I was barely even speaking, FFS. I'd say the fact that you guys TP'd me without my consent several (SEVERAL) times is much more harass-like than just standing there, and I'm pretty sure the kick is abuse as well, considering you just kicked me for personal issues. How many times have you kicked people for going into someone else's home?

And THIS crap of you people is exactly why we don't have nice things around here. YES, you should have asked Pete to leave/return the items before resulting to threats and command abuse. It's called being civil and "the bigger man", try it sometimes.

And as I already said earlier I am not talking Pete's actions right even though what he did was within the rules. He had a legal way to get into that area. He did not insult or call you names over chat nor did he try to kill or grief you (even though those are moot points since he was in your zone). Frankly he appears to have done nothing besides standing there and picking up items. Once again, although an incredibly dickmove, what he did was fully within the rules.

PetePorty wrote:I wasn't harassing you; I was in no way making your gaming experience worse, I was barely even speaking, FFS. I'd say the fact that you guys TP'd me without my consent several (SEVERAL) times is much more harass-like than just standing there, and I'm pretty sure the kick is abuse as well, considering you just kicked me for personal issues. How many times have you kicked people for going into someone else's home?

You were standing in the way of us mining items attempting to take them - affecting us directly.
As stated in the first post, you were in our base/home/zoned area (whatever) without permission and therefore I/we tp'd you to spawn.

I even asked Orc if it would be alright to /kick you for doing the above, he said it'd be alright, how in any way is this a "personal issue".


How many times do we need to say that the area Pete was in is walled off?

It wasn't. If it was, I couldn't have got in, I don't have teleportation commands nor could I edit blocks inside there.

You were /home'ing to get in there.

you're*

What he originally posted:

[SIZE=100]YOUR A FUCKING MORON[/SIZE]

He also failed at using size correctly, thank me later Yarwood.

Yarwood wrote:You were /home'ing to get in there.

Which is illegal how exactly?

>.>

EDIT: Lol orc xD

Pete: I was using /home to get in
Pete: It isn't walled off, or else I couldn't get in.

So, if anybody else were to go and (perhaps not the same case, but still the same principle) set my home in Frostside - which is undergoing construction, stand there whilst blocks are being mined and pick them up intentionally before the miner has a chance to pick them up, be tp'd away numerous times, come back and repeat - would be allowed?

I don't think so.

It would not be against the rules as we currently have them no. A gigantic dickmove that I would tempban for, sure. But actually against the rules? But then again I already explained that thrice in this topic. Just as I already explained thrice that you and Red were just as much in the wrong for not even bothering to ask Pete to sod off.

Haha, just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.

Mon Apr 25 07:25:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: peterporty you do not have permission for this area and i'm kicking you out

Mon Apr 25 07:25:17 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: /tphere peter
Mon Apr 25 07:26:49 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : YarwoodUK: /tphere PeterPorty
Mon Apr 25 07:30:54 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: /tphere peter
Mon Apr 25 07:31:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : YarwoodUK: /tphere peterporty

Not against the rules because we don't have a rule on it? How about "griefing - harassment", it's pretty clear he was harassing us as we were trying to mine the items.

Please surprise me with yet another post which I've already made a point on in this thread.

Did you give Pete a chance to retreat? I mean You /tphere'd him 7 seconds afterwards.

Nice sig there gamerg.



.........



*runs*

7 Seconds is plenty of time to /spawn.

Considering (like I've said loads of times) the area he was in is walled off, there would've been no alternate.

Whether 7 seconds was enough time, there was no need to come back another 3 times.


And this'll be the last time I post