For all you Associates (16Bit) haters, Guess what!? Orcworm is now the leader of the minecraft section of the Associates.
Last edited by redjello on 2011-06-25, 08:40; edited 1 time in total
Orcworm is now the leader of the minecraft section of the Associates.
Lizardman wrote:Ok, so who ACTUALLY owns 16-bit/associates/whatever now? I was really considering joining.
Lizardman wrote:Lizardman wrote:Ok, so who ACTUALLY owns 16-bit/associates/whatever now? I was really considering joining.
Obviously, Orc owns everything. I mean what NON-ORC is the leader of it?
Lizardman wrote:Thanks, Zu. It was difficult to sift through rage/troll posts. Sorry if I seemed stupid.
In that case, who WILL BE the leader of it?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Jarvisd wrote:One less ponyfag.
Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?
PetePorty wrote:It's because the complaint was pretty stupid, and because Red has already caused a bunch of trouble for this server; even more than people like battlekid, vespasian and cowwface.
NeoCopyman wrote:Honestly I don't really see any problems with 8 Bit Or 16 Bit. I Have regularly played on this server since December and the most I heard of 16 bit was when they posted on General Discussion about recruitment, if people don't want to deal with 16 bit or whatever don't play around them, Go secluded, be a hermit etc etc. Jello starting shit? If he brings up everything bad that is ignored then hes being one of the very few "Ideal" Minecraft players. Deal with him bringing things to light or GTFO. Simple as that. So yeah. Sorry to see a great Player go but see you when it dies down Jello.
-Neo
-Mind You this is from a perspective that hasn't been involved in most of this shit thats been flying around. Hermit Life FTW-
Nicely said Neo,NeoCopyman wrote:Honestly I don't really see any problems with 8 Bit Or 16 Bit. I Have regularly played on this server since December and the most I heard of 16 bit was when they posted on General Discussion about recruitment, if people don't want to deal with 16 bit or whatever don't play around them, Go secluded, be a hermit etc etc. Jello starting shit? If he brings up everything bad that is ignored then hes being one of the very few "Ideal" Minecraft players. Deal with him bringing things to light or GTFO. Simple as that. So yeah. Sorry to see a great Player go but see you when it dies down Jello.
-Neo
-Mind You this is from a perspective that hasn't been involved in most of this shit thats been flying around. Hermit Life FTW-
Kn16h7 wrote:Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?
i think his main point was that it was not 1, but 2 members of staff that griefed the same area.
i agree that a perma ban is very extreme for this amount of grief but he does have a point at the same time. i believe that because of their rank, they should get some sort of punishment, maybe a temp ban, but not a perma. but this thread isnt about that.
I did tempban Krios for the torches.
reds had enough of this, and thats exactly whats been happening, Red has a problem with something, and for some reason, because its red, hes bashed for it, even though he has a point. maybe its because of how he says it, idk.
I haven't seen him bashed for it at all actually. I only had a problem with the fact that he was treating ME disrespectfully after I explained to him that PLACING 4 torches in a newb trap is far less 'grief' if anything compared to the newb trap itself. And that it was rediculous to ban a staff member for placing 4 torches. I could see if he closed it up or destroyed shit in it, but no. He placed 4 torches. What does red do after I TRY to explain that to him? Red being someone I generally respect and who I thought I was on good terms with, he goes and says "If you can't handle it I'll report it on the forums" After I went there, rolled back the griefs and tempbanned krios, even though I really didn't see the point. That to me is rude, and somewhat childish. "Well if mommy wont give me what I want I'll go to daddy!" Sort of deal. But whateves. For the record, I didn't give him any shit he didn't deserve at that moment.
@Pure: That picture is full of truth. had to be said.
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@Red: I dont blame you for leaving. iv seen how much bullshit you get when you really shouldn't get any. either way, the server wont be the same without you. .--.
Fri Jun 24 22:44:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: slave can you come look at this
Fri Jun 24 22:44:45 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: k
Fri Jun 24 22:45:00 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: this time a bunch of people griefed this trap
Fri Jun 24 22:45:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and krios as well for some reason
Fri Jun 24 22:45:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: pachino was already banned
Fri Jun 24 22:46:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and for som reason krios thought it would be okay to put a dozen torches here
Fri Jun 24 22:46:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: so did mtbers and patrickfreed
Fri Jun 24 22:46:56 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: so.. watcha want me to do
Fri Jun 24 22:47:08 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: they placed a torch and got rid of it
Fri Jun 24 22:47:15 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: krios didnt
Fri Jun 24 22:47:35 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: there
Fri Jun 24 22:47:39 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: 4 changes
Fri Jun 24 22:47:52 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: what else did he modify?
Fri Jun 24 22:48:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: he placed 4 torches
Fri Jun 24 22:48:42 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: i assume because hes not getting any temp ban or anything you dont consider it griefing then?
Fri Jun 24 22:49:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: Its 4 torches.. torches aren't really anything.
Fri Jun 24 22:49:13 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the point of the trap was to catch people in it
Fri Jun 24 22:49:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the torches provided light so people wouldnt get caught
Fri Jun 24 22:49:24 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: thats grief
Fri Jun 24 22:49:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: I'm not banning a staff member for placing 4 torches..
Fri Jun 24 22:49:55 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: he shouldnt be a staff member if he cant follow the rules like everyone else
Fri Jun 24 22:50:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: in a trap made to kill narbs and take their stuff..
Fri Jun 24 22:50:18 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: does it make a difference why its here?? no
Fri Jun 24 22:50:21 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: grief is grief
Fri Jun 24 22:50:30 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: if you cant handle it i'll report it to the forums thanks anyway
SlaveofRH wrote:Kn16h7 wrote:Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?
i think his main point was that it was not 1, but 2 members of staff that griefed the same area.
i agree that a perma ban is very extreme for this amount of grief but he does have a point at the same time. i believe that because of their rank, they should get some sort of punishment, maybe a temp ban, but not a perma. but this thread isnt about that.
I did tempban Krios for the torches.
reds had enough of this, and thats exactly whats been happening, Red has a problem with something, and for some reason, because its red, hes bashed for it, even though he has a point. maybe its because of how he says it, idk.
I haven't seen him bashed for it at all actually. I only had a problem with the fact that he was treating ME disrespectfully after I explained to him that PLACING 4 torches in a newb trap is far less 'grief' if anything compared to the newb trap itself. And that it was rediculous to ban a staff member for placing 4 torches. I could see if he closed it up or destroyed shit in it, but no. He placed 4 torches. What does red do after I TRY to explain that to him? Red being someone I generally respect and who I thought I was on good terms with, he goes and says "If you can't handle it I'll report it on the forums" After I went there, rolled back the griefs and tempbanned krios, even though I really didn't see the point. That to me is rude, and somewhat childish. "Well if mommy wont give me what I want I'll go to daddy!" Sort of deal. But whateves. For the record, I didn't give him any shit he didn't deserve at that moment.
@Pure: That picture is full of truth. had to be said.
@Jar: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
@Red: I dont blame you for leaving. iv seen how much bullshit you get when you really shouldn't get any. either way, the server wont be the same without you. .--.
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Fri Jun 24 22:44:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: slave can you come look at this
Fri Jun 24 22:44:45 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: k
Fri Jun 24 22:45:00 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: this time a bunch of people griefed this trap
Fri Jun 24 22:45:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and krios as well for some reason
Fri Jun 24 22:45:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: pachino was already banned
Fri Jun 24 22:46:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and for som reason krios thought it would be okay to put a dozen torches here
Fri Jun 24 22:46:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: so did mtbers and patrickfreed
Fri Jun 24 22:46:56 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: so.. watcha want me to do
Fri Jun 24 22:47:08 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: they placed a torch and got rid of it
Fri Jun 24 22:47:15 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: krios didnt
Fri Jun 24 22:47:35 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: there
Fri Jun 24 22:47:39 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: 4 changes
Fri Jun 24 22:47:52 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: what else did he modify?
Fri Jun 24 22:48:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: he placed 4 torches
Fri Jun 24 22:48:42 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: i assume because hes not getting any temp ban or anything you dont consider it griefing then?
Fri Jun 24 22:49:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: Its 4 torches.. torches aren't really anything.
Fri Jun 24 22:49:13 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the point of the trap was to catch people in it
Fri Jun 24 22:49:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the torches provided light so people wouldnt get caught
Fri Jun 24 22:49:24 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: thats grief
Fri Jun 24 22:49:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: I'm not banning a staff member for placing 4 torches..
Fri Jun 24 22:49:55 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: he shouldnt be a staff member if he cant follow the rules like everyone else
Fri Jun 24 22:50:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: in a trap made to kill narbs and take their stuff..
Fri Jun 24 22:50:18 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: does it make a difference why its here?? no
Fri Jun 24 22:50:21 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: grief is grief
Fri Jun 24 22:50:30 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: if you cant handle it i'll report it to the forums thanks anyway
Dunno where I went wrong, but I don't think it was befitting a ragequit.
Grintendo wrote:I'm sorry but this is HAS to be said.
You guys who are saying "Red's done nothing, stop giving him shit!"
Iv never said that, iv simply said hes not the evil, shitstorm causeing, menace of the server, thats to blame for everything that people are making him out to be
YOU are creating this god damn drama! One/Two people say he's attention seaking and what not and you blow things way out of proportion!
im not blowing anything "out of proportion" im simply trying to get people to see a middle ground in all of this, surely you of all people MUST see what im talking about here
As his friends, you shouldn't be raising more drama on his case, fair enough defending him, but you've just raised more and more shit.
(here comes a repeat) As his friend im trying to get people to hear his side of the story, iv sat on the sidelines long enough watching that iv gotten sick of it. im not asking you to love the guy, or worship him or some shit, i simply want them to understand where hes coming from (Inb4"We do understand" ... no you dont, or so much of this shit wouldn't be happening.) and do you really think the shit is going to stop flying if we were to just "Stop" and "Give up"? no it wouldn't... people will find something to raise shit about.
And come on 4 Torches? Perm Ban for one of the longest playing staff... You're mad, Krios is an asset to this server, and i'd much rather loose RedJello (No offence buddy, honestly) than Krios.
iv said this soooo many times now. i COMPLETELY agree that a perma ban for that case is not "fair". but (STILL trying for that so rare middle ground here...) he doesnt deserve to get away free, no punishment, no warning, no nothing. and ya know? the reason 4 torches are so bad is because it COMPLETELY destroys the purpose of the build they were placed in. so ya, dont fucking ban the guy permanently, but dont just not give a shit whatsoever.
I've said this before and i'll say it again, 16-bit / Orcs Associates, whatever you are, you're (were) the only large group, meaning no-one but you could make a simple claim of the UnderSpawn. Therefore you're going to receive a lot of shit for it, come on, you had to expect that? This whole thread is just causing more drama, and it's not Red's fault.
Dont. just DONT.
...
actually, you want to know WHY we got that spot under spawn (see how i made it 2 words, as in its not SPAWN, its just UNDERNEATH.)? ill tell you why.
1, Because no1 showed any interest in it AT ALL before we did. and ALSO because we put up REAL MONEY for it, we didnt just get it because "we're a large group"
afaik, there was pics and info about the place on these very forums for about a month before we BOUGHT it, and it didn't even occur to anyone to ask about claiming it, or making it a part of spawn. (This is why i say its not a part of spawn, because it was never made into such, when it was known that it was there) and just fyi, we didnt even care that it was under spawn, we just wanted it because it was really epic looking, and the fact that its below the original bedrock layer (Which also makes it epic ((and out of the way))) but either way, this topic, nor this shitstorm are about that. so please, if you have any more problems with this (This goes to anyone) take it up with orc, or at the very least, make a new thread. Because this is not the place for that shitstorm.
Honestly Red, Goodbye, come back when you're ("everyone else is") ready .
Oh, and the aim of this post is to reduce drama, not create more. Please don't use this as an excuse to further on more flames...
Ditto, this has all iv wanted to do, and i try to do it by trying to get people to at least LOOK at our (his) side of the story. its not my (our) fault that everyone sees it as drama, and decides to make it into more drama. in the end we just want the drama to end, infact, as iv said before, that is EXACTLY why red is leaving, not because of a ragequit, but because hes just fed up with the drama, because despite what everyone may think, Red isn't Vesp., he just wants to have fun like the rest of us
Grintendo wrote:
I've said this before and i'll say it again, 16-bit / Orcs Associates, whatever you are, you're (were) the only large group, meaning no-one but you could make a simple claim of the UnderSpawn. Therefore you're going to receive a lot of shit for it, come on, you had to expect that? This whole thread is just causing more drama, and it's not Red's fault.
Dont. just DONT.
...
actually, you want to know WHY we got that spot under spawn (see how i made it 2 words, as in its not SPAWN, its just UNDERNEATH.)? ill tell you why.
1, Because no1 showed any interest in it AT ALL before we did. and ALSO because we put up REAL MONEY for it, we didnt just get it because "we're a large group"
afaik, there was pics and info about the place on these very forums for about a month before we BOUGHT it, and it didn't even occur to anyone to ask about claiming it, or making it a part of spawn. (This is why i say its not a part of spawn, because it was never made into such, when it was known that it was there) and just fyi, we didnt even care that it was under spawn, we just wanted it because it was really epic looking, and the fact that its below the original bedrock layer (Which also makes it epic ((and out of the way))) but either way, this topic, nor this shitstorm are about that. so please, if you have any more problems with this (This goes to anyone) take it up with orc, or at the very least, make a new thread. Because this is not the place for that shitstorm.
Gladly.Grintendo wrote:Let's get back to the "fare-well" and "please return soon!"'s
KN16H7 wrote: do you really, and i mean REALLY, think his intention with that was purely to get a staff member banned for a stupid reason?
Actually yes. I thought about it, and the fact that he could not see how stupid it was yet still made a large deal about it shows me that he was probably less concerned about the 'grief' and more concerned about waving his e-peen around by getting a staff member banned for a stupid reason. I'm more than willing to bet if that did happen he'd brag about it on TS. But that's besides the point.
its been said so much but no1 can understand. the whole thing was to get a point across(Exactly)and that point was, was that Staff shouldn't just be able to do Whatever the fuck they want. Can I just add, that staff SHOULDNT think they can do whatever they want, but whatabout members who feel that they are ABOVE staff? Or can do whatever the fuck they want because they buddy up to orc? I hear you guys, remember? The shit you talk, makes you sound like you think you all own the server. So I'd hardly say that he was trying to make a point for the better of the server and more for the e-peen of 16bit. yes he may have went overboard and tried to get him permabanned, but thats just red, and tbh i think it was to try and make that point even clearer, but because of that, no1 can see his point worth of shit, even when its bitting them in the ass.
Once again, not TRYING to start more drama, just trying to get some middle ground here.
SlaveofRH wrote:Actually yes. I thought about it, and the fact that he could not see how stupid it was yet still made a large deal about it shows me that he was probably less concerned about the 'grief' and more concerned about waving his e-peen around by getting a staff member banned for a stupid reason. I'm more than willing to bet if that did happen he'd brag about it on TS. But that's besides the point.
^From TS as this was first happening^Redjello wrote:The fact that they are staff means that they should know better
PetePorty wrote:We've never banned anyone for no reason. Never. Also, "ruining someone's building" by placing a torch? Fuck off, dude.
Just because you dont like something doesnt give you the right to Modify it