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    Post by redjello 2011-06-25, 08:35

    Yeah you see it with your own eyes, I'm leaving for a while the main reason being that theres so much drama surrounding me that even when I tried to report some grief it started a thread with a dozen posts on it maybe more at this point. I'll be on the Terraria server and i'll browse the forums once in a while.

    For all you Associates (16Bit) haters, Guess what!? Orcworm is now the leader of the minecraft section of the Associates.


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    Post by Jhubbz_ 2011-06-25, 08:36

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    Post by PureCraft 2011-06-25, 08:40

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    Post by Onlyme 2011-06-25, 08:42

    Based off of a conversation from Teamspeak...

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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-06-25, 08:58

    One less ponyfag. Good luck playing 2d minecraft.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-06-25, 09:02

    Ok, so who ACTUALLY owns 16-bit/associates/whatever now? I was really considering joining.
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-06-25, 09:03

    Orcworm is now the leader of the minecraft section of the Associates.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-06-25, 09:06

    Lizardman wrote:Ok, so who ACTUALLY owns 16-bit/associates/whatever now? I was really considering joining.

    Obviously, Orc owns everything. I mean what NON-ORC is the leader of it?
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-06-25, 09:36

    Lizardman wrote:
    Lizardman wrote:Ok, so who ACTUALLY owns 16-bit/associates/whatever now? I was really considering joining.

    Obviously, Orc owns everything. I mean what NON-ORC is the leader of it?

    Don't you listen, Liz?

    ORC is the leader of The Associates.

    Jello has been taking a break for about a week and a half now, and made Orc the leader. He's ACTUALLY the leader right now (temporarily). He's been chilling for a while, so Jello made him temp leader so that the whole server will FINALLY stop making him the pariah of everything bad. Especially when he's not.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-06-25, 09:55

    Thanks, Zu. It was difficult to sift through rage/troll posts. Sorry if I seemed stupid.

    In that case, who WILL BE the leader of it?
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-25, 10:02

    Bye RedJello, and goodluck.
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-06-25, 10:08

    Lizardman wrote:Thanks, Zu. It was difficult to sift through rage/troll posts. Sorry if I seemed stupid.

    In that case, who WILL BE the leader of it?

    Jello will come back after a month or so. I don't know the faith of The Associates... But we're all friends, so we'll figure things out one way or another.
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    Post by sieve 2011-06-25, 10:16

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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-25, 10:22

    I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-06-25, 10:32

    Jarvisd wrote:One less ponyfag.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-25, 11:07

    Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?

    i think his main point was that it was not 1, but 2 members of staff that griefed the same area.

    i agree that a perma ban is very extreme for this amount of grief but he does have a point at the same time. i believe that because of their rank, they should get some sort of punishment, maybe a temp ban, but not a perma. but this thread isnt about that.

    reds had enough of this, and thats exactly whats been happening, Red has a problem with something, and for some reason, because its red, hes bashed for it, even though he has a point. maybe its because of how he says it, idk.

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    @Red: I dont blame you for leaving. iv seen how much bullshit you get when you really shouldn't get any. either way, the server wont be the same without you. .--.
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-25, 11:17

    It's because the complaint was pretty stupid, and because Red has already caused a bunch of trouble for this server; even more than people like battlekid, vespasian and cowwface.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-25, 11:30

    PetePorty wrote:It's because the complaint was pretty stupid, and because Red has already caused a bunch of trouble for this server; even more than people like battlekid, vespasian and cowwface.

    Thats what im trying to point out though, Reds not starting shit at all, hes bringing up shit that others refuse to see, that others refuse to deal with because they're to fucking lazy to do so.

    Stop blameing red for everything that fucking goes wrong with the server, because its not all his dam fault, most of the times (No matter how hard it is for you to see this) he has the good of the server in mind with what he does and says, even if it doesnt seem like it. but all of you just seem to think its better to blame it all on 1 person and thats it. no more. its like you just dont give a fuck. maybe if people looked at what he was SAYING and not HOW he said it, half the shitstorms the "He starts" wouldn't happen at all. but no, thats to dam much to ask apparently. Red is NOTHING like Vesp. and the others like vesp. wanna know why? the difference is that they didnt give a fuck about the server and just WANTED the shitstorms to happen, they WANTED the drama. red on the other hand just wants the fucking retards to stop being retards, and for the staff to look at EVERYTHING thats going on, not just listen to the "majority" of the players.
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-25, 11:38

    This server used to be pretty good. Then 8bit happened, then 16bit, then random people causing havoc. I know he's not the only one, he's one of them though, and he's probably the one that's louder. Also, we're supposed to please the majority, that's how it works.
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    Post by aapl2 2011-06-25, 12:27

    bye bitch enjoy your ragequit ;p
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    Post by NeoCopyman 2011-06-25, 12:39

    Honestly I don't really see any problems with 8 Bit Or 16 Bit. I Have regularly played on this server since December and the most I heard of 16 bit was when they posted on General Discussion about recruitment, if people don't want to deal with 16 bit or whatever don't play around them, Go secluded, be a hermit etc etc. Jello starting shit? If he brings up everything bad that is ignored then hes being one of the very few "Ideal" Minecraft players. Deal with him bringing things to light or GTFO. Simple as that. So yeah. Sorry to see a great Player go but see you when it dies down Jello.
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    Post by aapl2 2011-06-25, 12:42

    NeoCopyman wrote:Honestly I don't really see any problems with 8 Bit Or 16 Bit. I Have regularly played on this server since December and the most I heard of 16 bit was when they posted on General Discussion about recruitment, if people don't want to deal with 16 bit or whatever don't play around them, Go secluded, be a hermit etc etc. Jello starting shit? If he brings up everything bad that is ignored then hes being one of the very few "Ideal" Minecraft players. Deal with him bringing things to light or GTFO. Simple as that. So yeah. Sorry to see a great Player go but see you when it dies down Jello.
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    you better wash jello's ass off your mouth.
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    Post by Albuca 2011-06-25, 12:44

    NeoCopyman wrote:Honestly I don't really see any problems with 8 Bit Or 16 Bit. I Have regularly played on this server since December and the most I heard of 16 bit was when they posted on General Discussion about recruitment, if people don't want to deal with 16 bit or whatever don't play around them, Go secluded, be a hermit etc etc. Jello starting shit? If he brings up everything bad that is ignored then hes being one of the very few "Ideal" Minecraft players. Deal with him bringing things to light or GTFO. Simple as that. So yeah. Sorry to see a great Player go but see you when it dies down Jello.
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    Nicely said Neo,

    I'm not getting involved in any flame war, just want to say g'bye bud. This place wont be the same without ya.

    Cheers!
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    Post by SlaveofRH 2011-06-25, 12:44

    Kn16h7 wrote:
    Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?

    i think his main point was that it was not 1, but 2 members of staff that griefed the same area.

    i agree that a perma ban is very extreme for this amount of grief but he does have a point at the same time. i believe that because of their rank, they should get some sort of punishment, maybe a temp ban, but not a perma. but this thread isnt about that.

    I did tempban Krios for the torches.

    reds had enough of this, and thats exactly whats been happening, Red has a problem with something, and for some reason, because its red, hes bashed for it, even though he has a point. maybe its because of how he says it, idk.

    I haven't seen him bashed for it at all actually. I only had a problem with the fact that he was treating ME disrespectfully after I explained to him that PLACING 4 torches in a newb trap is far less 'grief' if anything compared to the newb trap itself. And that it was rediculous to ban a staff member for placing 4 torches. I could see if he closed it up or destroyed shit in it, but no. He placed 4 torches. What does red do after I TRY to explain that to him? Red being someone I generally respect and who I thought I was on good terms with, he goes and says "If you can't handle it I'll report it on the forums" After I went there, rolled back the griefs and tempbanned krios, even though I really didn't see the point. That to me is rude, and somewhat childish. "Well if mommy wont give me what I want I'll go to daddy!" Sort of deal. But whateves. For the record, I didn't give him any shit he didn't deserve at that moment.

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    @Red: I dont blame you for leaving. iv seen how much bullshit you get when you really shouldn't get any. either way, the server wont be the same without you. .--.

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    Fri Jun 24 22:44:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: slave can you come look at this
    Fri Jun 24 22:44:45 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: k
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:00 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: this time a bunch of people griefed this trap
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and krios as well for some reason
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: pachino was already banned
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and for som reason krios thought it would be okay to put a dozen torches here
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: so did mtbers and patrickfreed
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:56 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: so.. watcha want me to do
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:08 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: they placed a torch and got rid of it
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:15 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: krios didnt
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:35 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: there
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:39 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: 4 changes
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:52 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: what else did he modify?
    Fri Jun 24 22:48:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: he placed 4 torches
    Fri Jun 24 22:48:42 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: i assume because hes not getting any temp ban or anything you dont consider it griefing then?
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: Its 4 torches.. torches aren't really anything.
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:13 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the point of the trap was to catch people in it
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the torches provided light so people wouldnt get caught
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:24 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: thats grief
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: I'm not banning a staff member for placing 4 torches..
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:55 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: he shouldnt be a staff member if he cant follow the rules like everyone else
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: in a trap made to kill narbs and take their stuff..
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:18 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: does it make a difference why its here?? no
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:21 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: grief is grief
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:30 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: if you cant handle it i'll report it to the forums thanks anyway

    Dunno where I went wrong, but I don't think it was befitting a ragequit.


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    Post by Pete 2011-06-25, 12:50

    What aapl said. Also, IDK about 16bit, but 8bit was a grief group, and we had extensive discussions as to whether we should ban all of them at once or not... (didn't help that 2-3 staff members were part of it. Razz)

    Also, Red is just a butthurt dude; when someone pokes you, you poke him back or ignore it; when you go crying back to mommy, everyone hates you. And when you poke every single child in your class because the bully guy poke you once, everyone hates you too. You've gotta either fit in, have boobs or GTFO.
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-06-25, 13:56

    Hay I'd take bullshit if I also owned the whole bottom of spawn and got op to do 'projects'... No one feels like you are a victim so stop playing that card. I mean the whole point of this thread is for attention. Vespasian didn't have to make a thread about his departure?
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-25, 14:15

    SlaveofRH wrote:
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    Grintendo wrote:I don't think you deserve the stick you got for your complaint... But you must see how ridiculous it is?

    i think his main point was that it was not 1, but 2 members of staff that griefed the same area.

    i agree that a perma ban is very extreme for this amount of grief but he does have a point at the same time. i believe that because of their rank, they should get some sort of punishment, maybe a temp ban, but not a perma. but this thread isnt about that.

    I did tempban Krios for the torches.

    reds had enough of this, and thats exactly whats been happening, Red has a problem with something, and for some reason, because its red, hes bashed for it, even though he has a point. maybe its because of how he says it, idk.

    I haven't seen him bashed for it at all actually. I only had a problem with the fact that he was treating ME disrespectfully after I explained to him that PLACING 4 torches in a newb trap is far less 'grief' if anything compared to the newb trap itself. And that it was rediculous to ban a staff member for placing 4 torches. I could see if he closed it up or destroyed shit in it, but no. He placed 4 torches. What does red do after I TRY to explain that to him? Red being someone I generally respect and who I thought I was on good terms with, he goes and says "If you can't handle it I'll report it on the forums" After I went there, rolled back the griefs and tempbanned krios, even though I really didn't see the point. That to me is rude, and somewhat childish. "Well if mommy wont give me what I want I'll go to daddy!" Sort of deal. But whateves. For the record, I didn't give him any shit he didn't deserve at that moment.

    @Pure: That picture is full of truth. had to be said.

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    @Red: I dont blame you for leaving. iv seen how much bullshit you get when you really shouldn't get any. either way, the server wont be the same without you. .--.

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    Fri Jun 24 22:44:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: slave can you come look at this
    Fri Jun 24 22:44:45 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: k
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:00 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: this time a bunch of people griefed this trap
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and krios as well for some reason
    Fri Jun 24 22:45:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: pachino was already banned
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:10 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: and for som reason krios thought it would be okay to put a dozen torches here
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:47 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: so did mtbers and patrickfreed
    Fri Jun 24 22:46:56 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: so.. watcha want me to do
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:08 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: they placed a torch and got rid of it
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:15 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: krios didnt
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:35 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: there
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:39 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: 4 changes
    Fri Jun 24 22:47:52 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: what else did he modify?
    Fri Jun 24 22:48:11 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: he placed 4 torches
    Fri Jun 24 22:48:42 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: i assume because hes not getting any temp ban or anything you dont consider it griefing then?
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: Its 4 torches.. torches aren't really anything.
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:13 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the point of the trap was to catch people in it
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:22 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: the torches provided light so people wouldnt get caught
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:24 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: thats grief
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:41 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: I'm not banning a staff member for placing 4 torches..
    Fri Jun 24 22:49:55 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: he shouldnt be a staff member if he cant follow the rules like everyone else
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:04 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : SlaveofRH: in a trap made to kill narbs and take their stuff..
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:18 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: does it make a difference why its here?? no
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:21 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: grief is grief
    Fri Jun 24 22:50:30 CEST 2011 INFO [bLog] : redjello: if you cant handle it i'll report it to the forums thanks anyway

    Dunno where I went wrong, but I don't think it was befitting a ragequit.

    I completely agree. i tried saying that to him and zu in TS, but they do still have a point (here i go repeating myself... >,<) he IS a staff member and should know better. and the fact that you tempbanned him is a good thing, my take on this is that he SHOULD be punished, but not to the extreme of a permanent ban. and i knew you had temp-banned him. im not trying to take sides here, i just dont think this should go one way or the other, i mean, whats wrong with a bit of middle ground? what happened to balance?? anyway, im rambleing about an off topic matter here...

    and just fyi, he didnt ragequit. he just got tired of the drama.

    im done with this thread, all i see is more people trying to start shit. you see? he trys to leave because of this and you bring it to his farewell thread and tell him he ragequit. and you say its all him... (Thats not directed to you slave, because i agree with you mostly)
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-25, 14:21

    Yes, I sincerely think the server will be more peaceful without him in here. I also think this is just an attention-whore thread.
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    Post by Psychotron_3000 2011-06-25, 14:36

    I don't want to join in the flamewar, but I will say that Red is a great guy, and all of you prejudiced assholes should actually open your eyes, and see that Redjello is just another player.
    There is so much hate against our group- especially Redjello, and most of it is unfounded crap that people just assume and blow out of proportion. Good job running a good guy out of the server, guys.

    Seeya mate, server won't be the same without you.
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-06-25, 14:44

    I was mentioned! I'm so popular I can't stand it! Razz
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    Post by Stensballe 2011-06-25, 21:53

    Bye Bye Redjelly tongue

    not really an edit: cant we all just get along?
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-25, 22:30

    I'm sorry but this is HAS to be said.

    You guys who are saying "Red's done nothing, stop giving him shit!"

    YOU are creating this god damn drama! One/Two people say he's attention seaking and what not and you blow things way out of proportion! As his friends, you shouldn't be raising more drama on his case, fair enough defending him, but you've just raised more and more shit.

    And come on 4 Torches? Perm Ban for one of the longest playing staff... You're mad, Krios is an asset to this server, and i'd much rather loose RedJello (No offence buddy, honestly) than Krios.

    I've said this before and i'll say it again, 16-bit / Orcs Associates, whatever you are, you're (were) the only large group, meaning no-one but you could make a simple claim of the UnderSpawn. Therefore you're going to receive a lot of shit for it, come on, you had to expect that? This whole thread is just causing more drama, and it's not Red's fault.

    Honestly Red, Goodbye, come back when you're ("everyone else is") ready Sad.

    Oh, and the aim of this post is to reduce drama, not create more. Please don't use this as an excuse to further on more flames...
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-25, 23:45

    ok, ill admit you have a point but i cant just not reply, (and everything im about to post, is in no way, meant to cause drama, just getting a point across)

    Grintendo wrote:I'm sorry but this is HAS to be said.

    You guys who are saying "Red's done nothing, stop giving him shit!"

    Iv never said that, iv simply said hes not the evil, shitstorm causeing, menace of the server, thats to blame for everything that people are making him out to be

    YOU are creating this god damn drama! One/Two people say he's attention seaking and what not and you blow things way out of proportion!

    im not blowing anything "out of proportion" im simply trying to get people to see a middle ground in all of this, surely you of all people MUST see what im talking about here


    As his friends, you shouldn't be raising more drama on his case, fair enough defending him, but you've just raised more and more shit.

    (here comes a repeat) As his friend im trying to get people to hear his side of the story, iv sat on the sidelines long enough watching that iv gotten sick of it. im not asking you to love the guy, or worship him or some shit, i simply want them to understand where hes coming from (Inb4"We do understand" ... no you dont, or so much of this shit wouldn't be happening.) and do you really think the shit is going to stop flying if we were to just "Stop" and "Give up"? no it wouldn't... people will find something to raise shit about.

    And come on 4 Torches? Perm Ban for one of the longest playing staff... You're mad, Krios is an asset to this server, and i'd much rather loose RedJello (No offence buddy, honestly) than Krios.

    iv said this soooo many times now. i COMPLETELY agree that a perma ban for that case is not "fair". but (STILL trying for that so rare middle ground here...) he doesnt deserve to get away free, no punishment, no warning, no nothing. and ya know? the reason 4 torches are so bad is because it COMPLETELY destroys the purpose of the build they were placed in. so ya, dont fucking ban the guy permanently, but dont just not give a shit whatsoever.

    I've said this before and i'll say it again, 16-bit / Orcs Associates, whatever you are, you're (were) the only large group, meaning no-one but you could make a simple claim of the UnderSpawn. Therefore you're going to receive a lot of shit for it, come on, you had to expect that? This whole thread is just causing more drama, and it's not Red's fault.

    Dont. just DONT.

    ...

    actually, you want to know WHY we got that spot under spawn (see how i made it 2 words, as in its not SPAWN, its just UNDERNEATH.)? ill tell you why.

    1, Because no1 showed any interest in it AT ALL before we did. and ALSO because we put up REAL MONEY for it, we didnt just get it because "we're a large group"

    afaik, there was pics and info about the place on these very forums for about a month before we BOUGHT it, and it didn't even occur to anyone to ask about claiming it, or making it a part of spawn. (This is why i say its not a part of spawn, because it was never made into such, when it was known that it was there) and just fyi, we didnt even care that it was under spawn, we just wanted it because it was really epic looking, and the fact that its below the original bedrock layer (Which also makes it epic ((and out of the way))) but either way, this topic, nor this shitstorm are about that. so please, if you have any more problems with this (This goes to anyone) take it up with orc, or at the very least, make a new thread. Because this is not the place for that shitstorm.


    Honestly Red, Goodbye, come back when you're ("everyone else is") ready Sad.

    Oh, and the aim of this post is to reduce drama, not create more. Please don't use this as an excuse to further on more flames...

    Ditto, this has all iv wanted to do, and i try to do it by trying to get people to at least LOOK at our (his) side of the story. its not my (our) fault that everyone sees it as drama, and decides to make it into more drama. in the end we just want the drama to end, infact, as iv said before, that is EXACTLY why red is leaving, not because of a ragequit, but because hes just fed up with the drama, because despite what everyone may think, Red isn't Vesp., he just wants to have fun like the rest of us

    (Replys in blue)

    And just to clarify, im not saying reds not at fault for anything, or that he never causes shit, because he does. he just doesnt do it as much as you all think he does. the more and more i see happening, the more and more i see red getting blamed for it all just for being involved, and also for bringing to light things that others would rather just ignore. take the krios thing for example. do you really, and i mean REALLY, think his intention with that was purely to get a staff member banned for a stupid reason? its been said so much but no1 can understand. the whole thing was to get a point acrossand that point was, was that Staff shouldn't just be able to do Whatever the fuck they want. yes he may have went overboard and tried to get him permabanned, but thats just red, and tbh i think it was to try and make that point even clearer, but because of that, no1 can see his point worth of shit, even when its bitting them in the ass.


    Once again, not TRYING to start more drama, just trying to get some middle ground here.
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-26, 00:03


    I understand your claims, and most of them are reasonable, but this is a two way thing, you've got to accept some other claims (i recognize you made not that you have accepted some points).
    For example...
    Grintendo wrote:
    I've said this before and i'll say it again, 16-bit / Orcs Associates, whatever you are, you're (were) the only large group, meaning no-one but you could make a simple claim of the UnderSpawn. Therefore you're going to receive a lot of shit for it, come on, you had to expect that? This whole thread is just causing more drama, and it's not Red's fault.

    Dont. just DONT.

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    actually, you want to know WHY we got that spot under spawn (see how i made it 2 words, as in its not SPAWN, its just UNDERNEATH.)? ill tell you why.

    1, Because no1 showed any interest in it AT ALL before we did. and ALSO because we put up REAL MONEY for it, we didnt just get it because "we're a large group"

    afaik, there was pics and info about the place on these very forums for about a month before we BOUGHT it, and it didn't even occur to anyone to ask about claiming it, or making it a part of spawn. (This is why i say its not a part of spawn, because it was never made into such, when it was known that it was there) and just fyi, we didnt even care that it was under spawn, we just wanted it because it was really epic looking, and the fact that its below the original bedrock layer (Which also makes it epic ((and out of the way))) but either way, this topic, nor this shitstorm are about that. so please, if you have any more problems with this (This goes to anyone) take it up with orc, or at the very least, make a new thread. Because this is not the place for that shitstorm.


    Like i said no-one could make a claim to it apart from your group, hence the BS you're getting. I doubt Orc would let a Newplayer 1-Newplayer 10 who have made a "clan" have a claim to the under-spawn? I'd like to see this thread, as i never knew it existed.

    And you make a good point with Red using this to make his point clear, but why live in a world of riddles and rhymes? Why doesn't he honestly and clearly say 'Staff can't do what they like' and then it can be taken on from there, rather than making ridiculous claims for a perm ban! As you can see it caused more drama, and therefore wasn't a good way to get such point across.

    Anyway, we're just making this worse, but i do respect your opinions.

    Let's get back to the "fare-well" and "please return soon!"'s
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-26, 00:22

    Grintendo wrote:Let's get back to the "fare-well" and "please return soon!"'s
    Gladly.

    As much as id like to counter some of what you just said, as well as agree, i have to acknowledge that your right, and no matter how much of a point i make, or you make, in the end, its better if we just stop. this has got to be the smartest, and most helpful thing i have seen posted all night and this morning so far.

    Hope to see you back on minecraft soon red, and with that, i will no longer post in this thread. (For realz this time .--.)
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    Post by SlaveofRH 2011-06-26, 01:33

    KN16H7 wrote: do you really, and i mean REALLY, think his intention with that was purely to get a staff member banned for a stupid reason?

    Actually yes. I thought about it, and the fact that he could not see how stupid it was yet still made a large deal about it shows me that he was probably less concerned about the 'grief' and more concerned about waving his e-peen around by getting a staff member banned for a stupid reason. I'm more than willing to bet if that did happen he'd brag about it on TS. But that's besides the point.

    its been said so much but no1 can understand. the whole thing was to get a point across(Exactly)and that point was, was that Staff shouldn't just be able to do Whatever the fuck they want. Can I just add, that staff SHOULDNT think they can do whatever they want, but whatabout members who feel that they are ABOVE staff? Or can do whatever the fuck they want because they buddy up to orc? I hear you guys, remember? The shit you talk, makes you sound like you think you all own the server. So I'd hardly say that he was trying to make a point for the better of the server and more for the e-peen of 16bit. yes he may have went overboard and tried to get him permabanned, but thats just red, and tbh i think it was to try and make that point even clearer, but because of that, no1 can see his point worth of shit, even when its bitting them in the ass.


    Once again, not TRYING to start more drama, just trying to get some middle ground here.

    Just saying..
    (Also not trying to start shit, just making an observation and reminding you what you guys do.)
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-06-26, 01:37

    Jesus Christ, kids these days...
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-26, 03:14

    just when i think im done with a thread. some1 makes me WANT to reply...

    i just spent about 15 - 30 minutes typing a response, but i cant seem to reply to that. (While yes i see your point, its not because im "Stumped" as to what to say. i just cant seem to understand your reaction and respond to it without sounding like a complete ass and starting so much shit and possibly loosing a friend...) so instead ill reply to this in particular: (More so to the part underlined, but it applies to everything in the quote)

    SlaveofRH wrote:Actually yes. I thought about it, and the fact that he could not see how stupid it was yet still made a large deal about it shows me that he was probably less concerned about the 'grief' and more concerned about waving his e-peen around by getting a staff member banned for a stupid reason. I'm more than willing to bet if that did happen he'd brag about it on TS. But that's besides the point.

    Can you still not understand why this is different than putting torches on some1's house? or some1's Statue or some other build?

    The darkness inside the trap was more than half of what made it work. by placing torches, krios 'ruined' the trap and the whole point of hejjin's build. thats why the torches were such a 'big deal' now if krios had removed the torches when he was done, it would have been fine, but he HAD to have known what that building was, and what the effect of leaaving them there would be, thats why the fact that he left them there pissed off red and zu. and just fyi, i was on TS when this happened, and thats why i KNOW for a fact that this wasnt some scheme to get krios banned, they (mostly red) were pissed that a staff member would do that.

    Redjello wrote:The fact that they are staff means that they should know better
    ^From TS as this was first happening^

    And tbh i think red was so pissed because he gets banned so dam often for ABSOLUTELY, no reason. (Not 1 block grief, for. no. reason.) and yet a staff member can ruin some1's build and get away with it.

    now, ONCE AGAIN i do think he went to far with it by wanting him permabanned, but that doesnt mean hes that much of a fucking dick that he did it simply to do it. i havent been here long, but i already know red much better than that...

    but srsly, can we take this to another god dam thread? this really REALLY does not belong here...
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-26, 03:47

    We've never banned anyone for no reason. Never. Also, "ruining someone's building" by placing a torch? Fuck off, dude.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-26, 04:03

    PetePorty wrote:We've never banned anyone for no reason. Never. Also, "ruining someone's building" by placing a torch? Fuck off, dude.

    see this is what im talking about when i say people dont actually look at whats being put in front of them and just dont give a shit enough to listen.

    let me explain this for you a bit more pete, because you dont seem to get it.

    Know what a noob/grief trap is? this build is a noob/grief trap, and the way hejj built it with an obby tunnel, when its completely dark, it makes it seem like theres a floor there, so that when you walk up, you FALL. now... take that tunnel and light it up with four torches, and no matter how much of a noob you are, your more than likely going to notice the hole. and NOT fall in. and since the point of the entire build is for them to fall in, makeing them see whats going on, ruins the point of the build. Get it now?

    oh and as for the no reason ban, if what you say is true, then why has red been banned about 4 or 5 times, and is afaik on his first chance?? unless hes getting some kind of privilege others dont get. that or he was banned for no reason. and since i highly doubt hes getting special treatment considering how against him people are... .---.

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    Post by Pete 2011-06-26, 04:09

    For your second question; Red has money.
    For the first thing; I'm completely against these "traps" you people make just to cause grief upon other players, SPECIALLY noobs who come here for the first time. When people place torches on it, it's so you don't fall through the hole, therefore doing a GOOD thing. If anyone should be banned, it should be the griefers building death traps just because.
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-26, 04:15

    Tbh, "noob" traps are "ass-whole" moves, and guess what happens to people who are do "ass whole" things. They get treated like a, you guessed it "ass whole".

    More to the point, a torch, no wait 4 torches, that's 4 clicks on your mouse, you discovered it before it had even been there for a day, it's not a big deal and punishment for that is ridiculous, mainly for the fact it was being used to counter an ass-whole move.
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-06-26, 04:18

    I'm typing this up while at work. listen. doesnt this remind anyone of a certain book? Lord of.the flies maybe? think of knight as piggy, and everyone else as the ignorant kids. this is freaking ridiculous. if people are still disputing what knight said in his big post with blue, then its obvious who is ignorant here. this is just getting ridiculous. it should end here with this thread being locked and people going their ways.
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-06-26, 04:21


    and yeah, ZuWrath is right.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-26, 04:24

    Just because you dont like something doesnt give you the right to Modify it

    Plus what zu said, thats a really good idea. (Nice reference there, only thing is, piggy still gets crushed by a boulder >.<)
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-06-26, 04:27

    Yeah well you're not far off it would seem.

    And look, even the troll agrees with me. Can we get a lock please?
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-06-26, 04:30

    Yep.

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