Guests and Treatment

Pete wrote:What about taking away shiny tags and colors? It's something I've been thinking about for some time now...

Pete wrote:communist dream

luminousmouse wrote:maybe you did something they didn't like?

strpr0wng wrote:Yeah, when I saw my blue name, I was so proud

Fireboy5115 wrote:I notice that disrespect is a HUGE issue. Most new guests are ignored and treated badly. I don't know why...maybe you guys can shed some light on the subject. The other day I was even disrespected because I asked someone to kick Ciphon who was, and I quote, writing "=((" about 10 times every 30 seconds. Then someone said, and again I quote, "someone ban that fireboy kid". Now, Ciphon, I don't mean to be mean or anything but I found this hurtfully unfair. After this I got pretty mad and asked why people disrespected so much. Then, I was starting to get ignored again. I thought that people knew who I was and was just thinking that they weren't mean or ignoring individuals. Please, consider your choices when on the server. I really don't want trouble or mean to insult anyone but...I think that people really should think about how you would feel if this happened to you.

PureCraft wrote:>log on SpA for the first time
>make a tunnel
>get kicked without knowing what I've done wrong
>mfw
Thank god I've never seen that mod afterwards...

FillerB wrote:As for everyone who voted no: you all reek of FILTHY HUMAN LIES. Everyone has "disrespected" some guest at one time or another. This whole respect thing is bloody silly anyway. Respect is not something you automatically get, it is something you earn by behaving yourself. If YOU are nice and civil to me and others then I will do so in return.

Then again we have a lot of asshats running around who think that because they got a special color and donated some money, they can do whatever the fuck they want. And you know what happens to them? They either leave the server because they can't make any friends (three guesses why) or they are unceremoniously kicked out because they go too far for too long.

As you said yourself this thing is mostly rank-based. The obvious solution would be to throw out the ranks right? If everyone is equal then there is no way to discriminate... What a delightfully childish thought. Humans have been discriminating each other based on age, gender, sexual preferences, ethnicity, job, income-level, matter of speech, type of cloths, favourite condiments and more for as long as there has been humans walking this planet. Do you honestly think that taking just one silly thing away makes everyone get along? I think not.

That is not to saying that the current setup of ranks is ideal. Far from it. Ideally you would have only two ingame-ranks. Staff and Player. Unfortunately this is from a pure administrative standpoint virtually impossible in a game like Minecraft. Where in games like TF2 you only have to kick/ban someone who thinks he's on Jerry Springer, in Minecraft you have to actively keep an eye on people. Think about how many players play on the server. Can you name every trustworthy person? Of course you can't. No single person could do that. Thus we have Guest/Member/Donator. Guests are people who are new to the server and of who we are not sure whether or not they could be trusted, Members are those who played enough to become a reduced risk and Donators are those who actually donated money and thus have to be complete idiots to throw that "investment away". Again a reduced risk group.

Again this is by no means an ideal setup. The "Custom Title"-thing is downright confusing for newcomers and potentially exploitable by savvy donators. Not to mention just plain vain. The game is about building stuff, not about having the most pimp title. This issue, if you want to call it that, has already been raised by multiple Staff-members, but alas Orc keeps clinging on to the "otherwise nobody would donate"-reason" which is a complete non-issue, which a quick look at the current donation-counter can tell.

If at all possible we could make the ranks invisible for every non-staff member. They are the only ones who actually have a use for the things. Would this reduce the blatant discrimination we get now? Yes. It wouldn't make it totally disappear, but it should cut down on the more rampant ones.

Baldymoint7 wrote:"Viet Cong" whats that?

Wiki Article wrote:The Vietcong (Vietnamese: Việt cộng), or National Liberation Front (NLF), was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975). It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army. During the war, communists and anti-war spokesmen insisted the Vietcong was an insurgency indigenous to the South, while the U.S. and South Vietnamese governments portrayed the group as a tool of Hanoi.

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Many Vietcong units operated at night, and employed terror as a standard tactic. Rice procured at gunpoint sustained the Vietcong. Squads were assigned monthly assassination quotas. Government employees, especially village and district heads, were the most common targets. But there were a wide variety of targets, including clinics and medical personnel. Notable Vietcong atrocities include 48 killed in the bombing of My Canh floating restaurant in Saigon in June 1965 and a massacre of 252 Montagnards in the village of Đắk Sơn in December 1967 using flamethrowers.

Yarwood wrote:The biggest reason Guests are "mistreated" is because a good percentage of them just grief and leave.

You'll find that once they've become a Member, they are treated better.

Obviously the whole stereotype of "Guests must be griefers" is wrong, but we can't stop the "Members/Donators" being immature or idiots (considering most of them are under 16 too), the best thing to do is ignore them and carry on playing and following the rules.

We can however deal with staff who might be "mistreating" guests, if so, make a complaint on the forums in the "Complaints" category, or PM Orcworm.


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Rardical wrote:

Yarwood wrote:The biggest reason Guests are "mistreated" is because a good percentage of them just grief and leave.

You'll find that once they've become a Member, they are treated better.

Obviously the whole stereotype of "Guests must be griefers" is wrong, but we can't stop the "Members/Donators" being immature or idiots (considering most of them are under 16 too), the best thing to do is ignore them and carry on playing and following the rules.

We can however deal with staff who might be "mistreating" guests, if so, make a complaint on the forums in the "Complaints" category, or PM Orcworm.


/thread ended

I'm 16. Just thought I would point that out.

Yarwood wrote:

Rardical wrote:

Yarwood wrote:The biggest reason Guests are "mistreated" is because a good percentage of them just grief and leave.

You'll find that once they've become a Member, they are treated better.

Obviously the whole stereotype of "Guests must be griefers" is wrong, but we can't stop the "Members/Donators" being immature or idiots (considering most of them are under 16 too), the best thing to do is ignore them and carry on playing and following the rules.

We can however deal with staff who might be "mistreating" guests, if so, make a complaint on the forums in the "Complaints" category, or PM Orcworm.


/thread ended

I'm 16. Just thought I would point that out.

For this post alone, you are one of the "idiots".

Spoiler:

The_Music_Man wrote:The problem is that people need to grow up.
Guests AND other people; basically, treat us like a douchbag, we do the same to you, I hate the ones that come and whine here.