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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 04:26

    I used /spawn. Got a text message on my phone so hey, left it up. No more than 15 seconds later I find I'm dead. Apparently Zuwrath saw someone push me off and collected all my stuff. Kinda lame he didn't give it back but hey, I'm not raging. I just think the spawn should be fixed so people can't be killed there.

    Edit: Whats also interesting is that when I died it showed me as dying on top of the spawn. I guess if people push you it doesn't show it on your screen till you move. So I looked safe, then suddenly killed. This is the main problem.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-11-28, 04:28

    I'm not really sure what you mean, if you AFK at spawn there isn't a way for anyone to kill you.
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    Post by The_Music_Man 2011-11-28, 04:29

    There are holes in the stairs.
    You can hit the glowstone on the way down.
    You can hit the bricks at the bottom.
    Etc.
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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 04:31

    That's the thing Orc, there is. I afked at the spawn and Zuwrath witness someone push me round and some how kill me. I wish I took a screenshot now but my death screen was at the top of the spawn. But I have seen people die jumping into the water.
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    Post by serioussam 2011-11-28, 05:12

    People die by jumping into the water by holding w on the way down. I don't know how you can fix people being plain retarded.
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-11-28, 05:17

    The_Music_Man wrote:There are holes in the stairs.
    You can hit the glowstone on the way down.
    You can hit the bricks at the bottom.
    Etc.
    I hit the glowstone before, but I tried to, I have no idea how you could have died
    if someone just pushed you...
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    Post by freddy705 2011-11-28, 05:22

    let me leave this message to everyone that complains about that fall. Either u can just press "disconnect from server" so u dont get killed.

    or we can remove the fall and you can all use the stairs? Smile

    serious, its not hard to press the disconnect button.. i do it all the time, even for a toilet break
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-11-28, 05:46

    freddy705 wrote:let me leave this message to everyone that complains about that fall. Either u can just press "disconnect from server" so u dont get killed.

    or we can remove the fall and you can all use the stairs? Smile

    serious, its not hard to press the disconnect button.. i do it all the time, even for a toilet break

    FINALLY someone understands!!!
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-11-28, 06:39

    Cagu wrote:That's the thing Orc, there is. I afked at the spawn and Zuwrath witness someone push me round and some how kill me. I wish I took a screenshot now but my death screen was at the top of the spawn. But I have seen people die jumping into the water.

    I didn't say I saw the guy do it. I said I'm sure that guy did it.

    There was a guy trying to punch you for a good 30 seconds until you died in the water. I only assumed he pushed you in. Otherwise, there's no way of knowing how you got in.
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    Post by G 2011-11-28, 06:54

    He probably pushed him in the fall and let him drown in the water
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    Post by Ciphon 2011-11-28, 08:00

    and this happened in 15 seconds? where the heck can someone push you in 15 seconds...
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    Post by The_Music_Man 2011-11-28, 08:25

    Pretty far, actually.
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    Post by GoDjMike 2011-11-28, 08:29

    Which is why I always afk with No Push on, there's a solution, although it would encourage the use of griefing clients Razz
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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 11:20

    freddy705 wrote:let me leave this message to everyone that complains about that fall. Either u can just press "disconnect from server" so u dont get killed.

    or we can remove the fall and you can all use the stairs? Smile

    serious, its not hard to press the disconnect button.. i do it all the time, even for a toilet break

    Freddy, there's no harm in assessing whether a problem can be fixed. I'm sure most people would agree that the spawn should be the safest place on the map. Obviously I won't make the mistake again, I lost my items. I'm just raising the problem now before someone looses thier whole bank to this.
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-11-28, 11:50

    [11/27/2011 18:16:16 CET] Cagu failed the doggy-paddle

    You drowned...
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    Post by Rardical 2011-11-28, 11:56

    I saw silentprotector (I think that's their name) getting pushed at spawn today. The person pushed them into the water and I waited at the top so I could tp them back up. Is it so hard for people to just disconnect?
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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 12:23

    Jarvisd wrote:[11/27/2011 18:16:16 CET] Cagu failed the doggy-paddle

    You drowned...

    Thanks for the information. One issue is that I have seen people fall and die - so it is possible. The second is my death screen showed me dead at the top of the spawn. Since I was pushed in and not responding to minecraft my character must have moved but without the screen updating. Everything looked perfectly fine till death popped up.

    Rardical wrote:I saw silentprotector (I think that's their name) getting pushed at spawn today. The person pushed them into the water and I waited at the top so I could tp them back up. Is it so hard for people to just disconnect?

    No, it's not. But if there is a simple fix to this problem why be afraid to correct it? As I mentioned, one would assume the spawn to be the safest area. Perhaps if it can't be fixed a simple sign warning players would be of benefit.
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-11-28, 12:31

    You are saying it can be fixed, then what is the solution...
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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 12:36

    I didn't say there was a fix. I said 'if' there is a fix. And I then gave a small solution should there be no fix.

    In fact, I could think of a fix. Add a block in front of the drop, that way people can't push you in. So if people want to go down, they just jump on the block, and then walk down.

    Or you could do the opposite. Around the drop point, make the platform drop one block. So if people try to push you in, you fall into the one block gap (I'm guessing you can't push someone up a block).

    How does that sound?
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    Post by freddy705 2011-11-28, 14:58

    You are saying that spawn shall be the safest place on the map. Allright i can live with that... but that is no escuse for staying afk...

    not to be rude ofc, but did you actually think that we made every single point in the tower, for people that is afk and at keyboard?
    ofc not.. we made the spawn so you can play on it, not stay AFK.

    I will fix it if i get a order to do it..
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-11-28, 15:01

    [quote="freddy705"]You are saying that spawn shall be the safest place on the map. Allright i can live with that... but that is no escuse for staying afk...

    not to be rude ofc, but did you actually think that we made every single point in the tower, for people that is afk and at keyboard?
    ofc not.. we made the spawn so you can play on it, not stay AFK.
    [quote]
    ^
    As said before not a huge deal, but if it will make you happy fred will fix it Smile
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    Post by Cagu 2011-11-28, 22:32

    I don't want to repeat myself but like I said, it's very easy to kill someone without them even realising and very quickly too. I'm obviously not going to make that mistake again. Like I said, I'm just flagging the issue up since I expect you will have a lot of people complaining about spawn kills and fixing it will save your staff plenty of complaints. Again this is in the requests section and not the complaints. I leave it with you to decide what to do.
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    Post by ragequiter64 2011-11-29, 00:07

    te only way he could de killed is if he waS pushed into the water and then drownd.....
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    Post by serioussam 2011-11-29, 00:13

    Most people who complain about getting killed in the spawn tower are mostly idiots. The tower is obviously not built so that you can afk in. If you want to afk make a 1x1 hole in the ground or /home.

    Edit: the best is to log out like Freddy said.
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-11-29, 02:50

    Block the entrance to the drop with something, so you can't be pushed into it without your knowing.

    And/Or...

    Extra water depth if it's true people are dieing from the drop.

    Success (mostly).
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    Post by Giygas 2011-11-29, 23:02

    I tl;dr'd most of the posts here. But I read the suggestion about removing the fall... which I believe was not meant to be serious.

    But there is one thing I can tell: Signs + Falsebook = Elevators
    What do you think about that?
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    Post by freddy705 2011-11-30, 00:38

    Giygas wrote:I tl;dr'd most of the posts here. But I read the suggestion about removing the fall... which I believe was not meant to be serious.

    But there is one thing I can tell: Signs + Falsebook = Elevators
    What do you think about that?

    Then no adrenaline kick D:
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    Post by The_Music_Man 2011-11-30, 07:56

    Spawn needs fixing Badreputationbyadrenalinkick
    I couldn't resist.
    Make the current flow out into a secret room or something.
    We DO have stuff like that, and I for one would like to see this.
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    Post by sieve 2011-11-30, 08:56

    The_Music_Man wrote:Spawn needs fixing Badreputationbyadrenalinkick
    I couldn't resist.
    Make the current flow out into a secret room or something.
    We DO have stuff like that, and I for one would like to see this.

    that's dumb, the way water currents work would make everyone fall into the secret room whether they were playing or not. Disconnect when you're AFK, when you're just standing there, you hog server resources for no reason
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    Post by uberblake 2011-11-30, 11:17

    hmmm...something like this, but larger?
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    Post by alexasaro 2011-12-01, 02:40

    What if we just enable /nopush whenever you in the spawn zone?

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