To My Fellow Americans:

Happy Independance Day! Try not to get in too much trouble today.

More special for me than Independance Day, it's also the fourth anniversary of my engagement to my wife. So... see y'all later! Off I go to pizza and fireworks!

It also means I get to sit at my Grandmas house and watch the coutry club fireworks

Happy anniversary, Ruly! Have a great night!

fuck the political part, im in it for the fireworks

Congrats on the anniversary. (nice planning, easy to remember)

I'm off with my WPAG(Winsert state that starts with w here Pyro Arts Guild) friends and we are going to shoot our homemade pyro technic displays. Fun! We are safe and professional. Be safe with your own fireworks!

Celebrating American freedom and liberty?

Spoiler:

Celebrating Netherlands freedom and equality... oh wait?

FillerB wrote:Celebrating American freedom and liberty?

Spoiler:

Do you guys celebrate free-
never mind.

Sigh, too damned dry in Texas to light anything up. So first Fourth Of July that I can't make a small crater in the street without starting another state wide fire.
-Neo

why am I nit suprised somebody linked the theme song to Team America? XD

I saw fireworks everywhere I went in Oklahoma and i'm pretty sure they're still being set off now.

Jarvisd wrote:Celebrating Netherlands freedom and equality... oh wait?

UrMomsMoat wrote:

FillerB wrote:Celebrating American freedom and liberty?

Spoiler:

Do you guys celebrate free-
never mind.

Bevrijdingsdag.
IN YEH FACE BITCHES!

Look let me put my rather trollish comment like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act
Freedom huh?

But yeah, hope you guys had fun blowing each other up and engorging yourself on BBQ.

TL; DR
what is it?

FillerB wrote:Look let me put my rather trollish comment like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act
Freedom huh?

But yeah, hope you guys had fun blowing each other up and engorging yourself on BBQ.

What’s funny is the distribution of republican/democrats from 2000-2008 compared to that photo

Spoiler:

We'll have same sex marriage when people stop thinking they have a say in others lives...

so never?

PureCraft wrote:so never?

Probably not never, but just like the long history of people getting rights (minorities and women), it's just going to be a while. It's sad really, cause who really gives a shit.

I do. My country won't accept gay marriage as long as I live.

See, the definition of marriage is a union between a woman and a man as husband and wife. Some online dictionaries have added another thing saying that in some places, people of the same sex can marry; but that's just an edit. Marriage is for guys and gals, not for 2 guys or 2 gals.

Are you opposed due to being religious or a dictionary definintion?

Pete wrote:Marriage is for guys and gals, not for 2 guys or 2 gals.

Then was everything you said to me a lie?

FillerB wrote:

Pete wrote:Marriage is for guys and gals, not for 2 guys or 2 gals.

Then was everything you said to me a lie?

He said it to you too.....
PETE IS A FUCKING WHORE!

I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, but they can not marry, since marriage is between a man and a woman. Why would they want to marry if that's a thing between a man and a woman? It's like saying you want to have children, but instead of having children, you'd want to have an adult.

to reap the benefits that married couples have such as combination of their estates and health benefits from their spouse, as well the knowledge that their relationship isn't viewed as inferior to heterosexuals'

why would you want combination of estates? Also, the medical benefits coming from the spouse were originally introduced for the female, so she (eve without working/being paid less) could have a decent health care from the man. Now, if both are woman, it doesn't work, and if both are men, they don't need it.

this isn't 1890, women work now. What if two gay men adopted and one wanted to take the role of a househusband? Since he couldn't get insurance from his partner because they aren't married, he would be fucked if he ever got sick. And since their estates aren't combined, what if one of them died? The state could take their children if the one who adopted them was dead. Not to mention the fact that the man's immediate family would legally have more of a claim to his stuff then his partner.

sieve wrote:this isn't 1890, women work now. What if two gay men adopted and one wanted to take the role of a househusband? Since he couldn't get insurance from his partner because they aren't married, he would be fucked if he ever got sick. And since their estates aren't combined, what if one of them died? The state could take their children if the one who adopted them was dead. Not to mention the fact that the man's immediate family would legally have more of a claim to his stuff then his partner.

+1

I do think one should be able to leave his stuff to anyone not only gays. I also don't think gays should adopt.

What the fuck is wrong with you, if you want to hate on America create a thread called "I am a douche" and do it there, not in the thread to celebrate our independence.

This thread was about Ruly's anniversary. Now it's about gay marriage/adoption.

It was about our Independence Day. I only noted that other part as a side item.

On another point, I support Homosexual couples having all the rights, privileges, and acknowledgements as Heterosexual couples.Whether it's called "marriage" or not is irrelevant. It's just a stupid word. That state of being is more in your heart and mind than it is in words on a piece of paper. They deserve those rights too. You may not support it, just like many others don't, but who are WE to thrust our own opinions on them and force them to give up on those dreams. It won't hury or inconvenience you or me or anyone else if they share the same rights and privileges as any other married couple.

I support them adopting children. Child rearing requires loving guidance, supporting dreams, disciplining for bad behavior. Teaching the importance of sharing, respecting others, & being a friend. Being there to support them in everything that they do, but also letting them face failure so they know they'll pull through.

I challenge you to provide even a single shred of evidence showing homosexual couples are not every bit as capable at child-rearing as heterosexual couples.

There are FAR too many orphans to let something as petty as "I just don't like it" to stop an adoption. Ask any parentless child, they are sure to tell you that they would much prefer two Mommies or two Daddies over having none of either.

so if the piece of paper doesn't matter, why do they even want it?

Anyways, in the early years of human development, one must observe examples and experience them to learn. The whole idea of having a male and female parent in the house is so that the child learns how to behave around both, and how each are different in certain aspects.

The fact that the child might learn that being with someone the same sax is 'normal' is plain wrong; considering the human being is the only animal not only driven by it's instincts but by logic and reason too, growing in a gay environment WILL affect the way they see the world; sure, they'll be more 'open minded', but up to what point is that a good thing?

Just to end, I'd like to say that homosexuals are generally discriminated by the mass public; I know this is a problem with society and not with themselves, but that doesn't change the fact that the kid would get made fun at school a LOT and that he would suffer a lot more than he would if he was raised by a heterosexual couple.

Note: I care more about your anniversary than 4/7

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07161/793042-51.stm


http://socialpsychologyeye.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/despite-claims-children-of-same-sex-parents-doing-no-worse-than-other-children/


http://palmsprings.kpsplocal2.com/content/study-concludes-children-adopted-gay-parents-no-worse-children-adopted-heterosexuals


I can keep going.

"My research suggests that's not the typical gay parent household," Dr. Gates said.
First link you posted. Sure, they MIGHT become normal people, but... It's an exception.

Also, don't link me to crap; I won't read it. Instead, read them yourself and write what you think about them.

lol this is still going.... What do you think about abortion??? I survied pro-choice, so I remain pro-choice. It's clearly the way to go, becuase Darwin wouldn't have it any other way.

Aw, hell, no, we're not getting into THAT topic too.

This is ridiculous. lol This is not the dark ages. Marriage has been redefined to be a union between two people who love eachother and want to take that step, not a union between a man and a woman. Basically, Ruly said all that I'd need to say so bravo to you Ruly. ;P

Also, It doesn't matter who raises a child, it matters how the child was raised.

Any parent can be a bad parent.

/2sense

I'm just saying who rises someone affects how well they do. In any case, pro-life.

Ouch. Unfortunate implications with that post much?

IDK, I've been posting nonsense for at least 4 posts... It's a fucking minecraft forum, people. >.<