The new and improved Orcworm

[Expect this topic to be updated when more changes roll out, In true Minecraft fashion we released something that was half-finished]

A new age has dawned upon Orcworm!

Rule Changes
- Killing NPCs such as pets in a Non-PVP zone will result in a temporary ban since it's a gigantic dick move.

Economy Overhaul
To make the economy a bit more interesting we have made the following changes
- You start with 500gil
- Gil can no longer be gained by simple being online a lot (no more 1gil/minute)
- Gil can be earned by doing jobs for other players/staff
- Gil can be earned by selling items to one of the Orcworm Inc. stores in New Orcshire

The City Project
To discourage the building of hundreds of tiny, unorganized villages (and just because we can) we proudly announce the City Project. This project entails the building of 5 large cities, listed below, and connecting these to each other with a railroad.

Each of these cities is ruled by a City Council of 3-4 trusted players. They decide on all matters pertaining to their respective city, whether this is who can become a citizen, the city planning, intercity relationships (aka City vs City Wars) or just plain old rent.

This rent is NOT for the personal use of the Council Members but exclusively for the improvement of their City. This rent money can for example be used to buy additional zoning to expand the city, to buy building materials or just to bribe the other Cities not to attack you.

As may have been clear by now: A player may only be a citizen in ONE of the MAJOR cities. This is to promote intercity activities. And besides, in real life you usually are also only a citizen of one country.

New Orcshire
aka Spawn City. Contains the Server Shops and a major railroad station linking to the other major cities.

New Kumatora
located to the north of New Orcshire. A tranquil and serene city in the middle of a large forest.

New Frostside
located to the west of New Orcshire. A frigid and harsh arctic city.

Eccenotcem City
located to the east of New Orcshire. A dark underground city.

Abydos
located to the south of New Orcshire. A hidden city in the desert based around Egyptian architecture.

(yay doublepost)

Oh and this also means we would like you to refrain from making new villages while the construction of the major cities is still in progress. The people who are chosen to be on the City Council will get PMed in the near future. Once they have accepted/declined I'll post a list of them.

Excellent, new moderation so its harder for players to get money its impossible for players to create and build new cities whether big or small and everyone who isnt an idiot already knows that any money anybody gets from any city is going to be taken and used for all the wrong purposes

A few questions:
Once the construction of the 5 major cities is completed, can we make a stop on the railroad that is just a big room full of teleport runes to various villages/towns. (you could also put a fee on this e.g 25 gil for a rune)

Is there a place to apply for the councils or are they already chosen?

The councils are nominated by staff at the moment.

"Eccenotcem"? Who came up with that name?

Changes mostly seem ok, but what's to stop the City council players from getting WAY more money than everyone else,considering they're probably going to have income pouring in all the time and all the other players will only be making it through selling the odd item?

Also, if we're going to have City wars and make it so formal, I say that the cities should be PVP enabled zones, and have to build walls and organize defences and such to prevent people from raiding them. Just the way it was in reality, etc.

Would also make it interesting in terms of cities trying to attack each other and find their way through the defenses.

Am I leading New FrostSide, or are you kicking me down from my own town? XD

Well, noone likes someone who always says "Everyone is hating on me" Imma Leave" as mayor. Its the InterWebZ, man

GaMerG77 wrote:Well, noone likes someone who always says "Everyone is hating on me" Imma Leave" as mayor. Its the InterWebZ, man

The other four cities would probably all declare war on Frostside within 30 minutes of being set up if he was mayor

Haha, Yes they would.

Wow, by the looks of everythings this looks to be an awesome server setup, cant wait for the towns to be set up and, i especially like the idea of having defences and such

Would love to be a mayor of one of these towns xD

By the way i would like to make one suggestion, since gil is no longer earnt regularly and its no longer easy to work out the prices of things, maybe a minimum/average/<empty space> wage would be useful, maybe in later times we would not need this, but right now maybe we need some gil guidelines for setting the prices of items, (and plots... )
Rather than having to ask around for it, someone could just think how much work say a pumpkin is worth, and use that as a price, for starters...?

I think this is an appropriate image:

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I dont think Pete would call it that ^^

Vespasian wrote:"Eccenotcem"? Who came up with that name?

Changes mostly seem ok, but what's to stop the City council players from getting WAY more money than everyone else,considering they're probably going to have income pouring in all the time and all the other players will only be making it through selling the odd item?

I came up with the name. It is a contraction of the latin phrase Ecce Notch Podicum which, according to Google Translate, means something along the line of "Behold! Notch's Ass.". I found it appropriate for a underground city.

There is no stopping Council Members from getting way more money. That's why only trusted players who will put this money to good use will be elected as Members. If the temptation proofs to use it for personal gain proofs to much the Member will be kicked out or the admins will inn the money and keep a tally of the city treasury in the Admin forum.

Rykleos wrote:Am I leading New FrostSide, or are you kicking me down from my own town? XD

You will most likely be put into NFS's council yes. But be aware that your fellow council member are your equals, no matter what arrangements you had in "old" Frostside. This is to assure that no one gets any funny ideas and go full dictator.


In response to that image: It is a mockup of the city positions and the railroad system. Any historical or religious symbols you sick puppies see in it are purely coincedental.

FillerB wrote:
In response to that image: It is a mockup of the city positions and the railroad system. Any historical or religious symbols you sick puppies see in it are purely coincedental.

I was refering to how big it was and that it didnt fit on the page...

FillerB wrote:

Vespasian wrote:"Eccenotcem"? Who came up with that name?

Changes mostly seem ok, but what's to stop the City council players from getting WAY more money than everyone else,considering they're probably going to have income pouring in all the time and all the other players will only be making it through selling the odd item?

I came up with the name. It is a contraction of the latin phrase Ecce Notch Podicum which, according to Google Translate, means something along the line of "Behold! Notch's Ass.". I found it appropriate for a underground city.

There is no stopping Council Members from getting way more money. That's why only trusted players who will put this money to good use will be elected as Members. If the temptation proofs to use it for personal gain proofs to much the Member will be kicked out or the admins will inn the money and keep a tally of the city treasury in the Admin forum.

Rykleos wrote:Am I leading New FrostSide, or are you kicking me down from my own town? XD

You will most likely be put into NFS's council yes. But be aware that your fellow council member are your equals, no matter what arrangements you had in "old" Frostside. This is to assure that no one gets any funny ideas and go full dictator.


In response to that image: It is a mockup of the city positions and the railroad system. Any historical or religious symbols you sick puppies see in it are purely coincedental.

"Trusted players" means what exactly?

Secondly, as for Rykleos being on a council: why is something he did in the previous server now becoming a huge advantage in the NEW server? I thought the whole idea was to get everyone on a level playing field.

If I had known that starting up some random city on the previous server would let me rake in the cash on the new one, I would have made like 10 cities

He already has experience with running a rather successful city (sertainly one one of the most notable) and I, and as far as I know any other admin, have never had any problem with him.

He is an excessive complainer though and once he's council. "Why wont you guys accept my idea" Blah Blah Blah.

FillerB wrote:He already has experience with running a rather successful city (sertainly one one of the most notable) and I, and as far as I know any other admin, have never had any problem with him.

Filler what is this sertainly nonsense?

GaMerG77 wrote:He is an excessive complainer though and once he's council. "Why wont you guys accept my idea" Blah Blah Blah.

Which is why the council will consist of at least 3 player. Fuck yeah democracy.

And Patrick. Fuck you. I've done enough spell checking for today thank you very much.

It's not democracy. It's oligarchy

Whatever. The point being is that the council is of an uneven number so you will always receive a decisive vote.

Vote for PC!! futur mayor of Notchs ass!

Eh, no. Atleast, I wouldn't

Filler said most were already chosen, so now we just have to wait...
Do the council members have to build the cities or are they already there?

We'll probably going to build them on our own, however, wait for Bunny to "release" his list

We will (eventually) provide the city outline (to make all cities more or less the same size) and a trainstation linking up to the global network.

The rest (city layout, amount of rent, cost of plots and building the foundations) is up to the Council to decide amongst themselves. You can of course hire players or recruit future citizens to help you out in the building. See it as a competition who can build the best city.

eccenotcem ftw that seems like the best city out of all of them to me, hidden underground, i always said theres more room to expand when you dig down under

I'm coming up with some "Artist's Concept" drawings of the cities. I'll have them screened and put up once they're all complete.

I have some pretty neat Ideas for Ecte, they require TNT too...

idk i like the idea of a frost city

Rulyon wrote:I'm coming up with some "Artist's Concept" drawings of the cities. I'll have them screened and put up once they're all complete.

Oh cool cant wait to see them

Abydos sounds neat, ancient style city. Is it going to be mostly sandstone construction?

That is the idea, but it really depends on what the City Council decides, doesn't it? :-)

I'd probably be up for being a citizen of Abydos, maybe Guard Captain or something. Keep the defenses up, build walls, keep mobs out etc.

Eccenotcem doesn't need walls, it's made out of them

The city capazity will be like... infinite, I would like to have a lake under it and Lightstone ordered like in the nether.

Use World Edit when defining the borders of Eccenotcem with Sandstone or the like. If they build past it... Whoops, TS, your shizz just got rolled back.

Can we make Eccenotchem City look like gnomergaun in wow or where all the dwarfs die in lord of the rings and die for being really greedy (cant remember name).

As said before, that is entirely up to Ecce's City Council. We supply you guys with a slab of land and a connection to the central railroad. You guys take it from there.

I would like to offer my assistance, i'd love to get involved in one of these towns to help the server, and if you saw my last co owned city you will notice it was rather nice!

i can help with any city, i owned like 3 in the last map.
(monstacity, was booming til everyone there got banned, various reasons)
(telg village, inherited from arbr, never reached its full potential)
(stockade, never reached its full potential due to tangy getting banned ( ) and the fact i didnt own it for all too long)

does this mean I'll have to abandon my farm / mine?

'Course not. It's simply an affiliation to a city.

You could go about your business and avoid the affairs of the cities.

xspider30 wrote:Can we make Eccenotchem City look like gnomergaun in wow or where all the dwarfs die in lord of the rings and die for being really greedy (cant remember name).

You mean Moria?

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If anybody can build a decent recreation of that in Minecraft, I'd be extremely impressed.

I'd love to try and rebuild something along the lines of Moria, but the heightlimit would screw it. Or it'd look cheap with non-epic abysses and way too small scaled things.
Something like the grand halls / corridors with all the huge columns is much more doable, but actually just as useless for a city, in which you want to have plots everywhere...

And on a sidenote, I'd love to help building and designing Eccenotcem.

If anybody builds anything from the Lord of the Rings, I'll give them a stack o' diamonds!

/me builds a ring.

/off topic

Gamer, that PedoBear looks like Whinny the Pooh imo.

Ryusei wrote:I'd love to try and rebuild something along the lines of Moria, but the heightlimit would screw it. Or it'd look cheap with non-epic abysses and way too small scaled things.
Something like the grand halls / corridors with all the huge columns is much more doable, but actually just as useless for a city, in which you want to have plots everywhere...

And on a sidenote, I'd love to help building and designing Eccenotcem.

Yeah, Minecraft is good for recreating many things, but Moria is just on too grand a scale to fit within the height limits and such. Also just wouldn't look right with all blocks.

But you could make a sick underground city, for sure.