Griefing by 16 bit

my house was griefed by members of 16 bit outside Redwood

Griefers Names: Jhubbz_ ,ZuWrath, (unsure about redjello - think he was just in the area)
Coords - X 319, Y 107, Z 928.
Grief - removed roof of my house and killed me
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Other Grief
Griefer Psychotron_3000
Coords: x 312 y 100 Z 932
Grief : removing block to gain access and kill me
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I believe him they were chatting about killing him an hour ago and he kept dieing.

I didn't break a block, you didnt totally fill it in. You filled in blocks around the side, and there was an area I could step up onto to get to you. If you haven't changed your house I can easily clarify this...

Spoiler:

Ontopic:.

We did not intentionally break any blocks. We made an extension of dirt from the wall I made that did not touch his roof. Following this, we made a Tunneling Rune on top of the extension. It got me to my destination, I got the kill, then all of a sudden, the rood disappeared.

This is exactly what happened. No grief was done intentionally, because that was not the goal.

thanks for the support Hamosh, but it is not worth it, they will turn on you next. thats is how this started, when i spoke up in regard to Jhubbz getting someone banned they turned on me. Thanks anyway

Wait, so did they actually edit any of your blocks or create any blocks that were touching yours?

eh. We placed no blocks touching his, nor did we manually remove any of his.
We made a warp point rune over his home (Been told this was permitted) but for some godawful reason it took the whole roof off of his house when it was activated.

You made a warp point over his home? That's quite ass-like... :L

They were told by staff that it was allowed and I've seen it done before, it never removed any blocks, but for some reason this one did. It was either a glitch or an unexpected accident that shouldn't have happened.

Grintendo wrote:You made a warp point over his home? That's quite ass-like... :L

It's the Tunneling Rune, not a Waypoint. Don't get the 2 confused.

So the warp point allows you then to get inside someones house, when build on top of it? That doesn't sound like something which should be allowed.

I know it's supposedly allowed, but i find it to be "ass-like"

Mati wrote:So the warp point allows you then to get inside someones house, when build on top of it? That doesn't sound like something which should be allowed.

Not ontop of it.. over the building. It's not touching the building at all.

I think he's referring too the fact you can use it to access a locked area, so therefore it shouldn't be allowed.

Grintendo wrote:I think he's referring too the fact you can use it to access a locked area, so therefore it shouldn't be allowed.

Exactly.

runecraft is very tricky, you can very easily make the wrong rune without noticing. so its very possible they meant to make a waypoint, but ended up makeing the tunneler rune or something else thats similar.

Kn16h7 wrote:runecraft is very tricky, you can very easily make the wrong rune without noticing. so its very possible they meant to make a waypoint, but ended up makeing the tunneler rune or something else thats similar.

*Looks at Waypoint/Teleport Rune*
*Looks at Mineshaft Rune*
*Looks at Warp Point Rune*
Nope.png

meh, iv never used or seen a mineshaft rune so i wasnt sure, just threw that in as a possibility.

Mati wrote:

Grintendo wrote:I think he's referring too the fact you can use it to access a locked area, so therefore it shouldn't be allowed.

Exactly.

It's part of Runecraft. I don't see why anything that is part of Runecraft should be "not allowed" unless it causes an issue like here.

You just answered your own question Wrath

Grintendo wrote:You just answered your own question Wrath

The thing is, Grin, you need to discover it first. No one knew this would happen, so now we have discovered it could happen, so it should be avoided.

Good point, but now it is discovered, needs to be made sure it doesn't happen again.

Grintendo wrote:Good point, but now it is discovered, needs to be made sure it doesn't happen again.

Pretty much.

how long does it usually take for an answer in regard to a griefing complaint from staff?

i have seen people banned within 30min when the complaint came from a member of 16 bit, so just wondering how long us lesser beings have to wait.

Your complaint will be overseen, be patient, staff have duties besides managing/managing complaints and have different time zones as you.

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The noobs, when they see Zuwrath, they shit thier pants. Then they're subsequently murdered

GaMerG77 wrote:Your complaint will be overseen, be patient, staff have duties besides managing/managing complaints and have different time zones as you.

still waiting for a response here, i thought another week would have been long enough.

First off... dat necro.
2ndly, there is no house at those coordinates, So I cannot look into any grief.

-A

that is because it has now been totally removed private chest and furnaces as well, i do not know by who

Well then there is nothing we can do.

-A

Grintendo wrote:I think he's referring too the fact you can use it to access a locked area, so therefore it shouldn't be allowed.

Pretty much my point. That the griefing is an accident, ok.... But killing him is just damn sick. I mean when you accidently do this kind of "act" than, apparently, you don't think. Oh shit! this wasn't what it suppose to be!!! We should say sorry (and if needed pwn him 10 min later when he is out getting wood).

I have seen a lot of people with ban appeals and I'm just disgusted by this thread, sorry really. Dozends of people getting banned for destroying 1 block. Some say they didn't do it on purpose. They get banned with the saying: "Griefing stays griefing even if you do it by accident"

You Griefed, not by accident, but you did. Whatever you say. Griefing is griefing. You ALL said it urself =\....

Don't say like: "Yeah, but it wasn't meant to be like this!!!" Doesn't sound fair to me. I'm not againts any of the people, I just wanna know how this 16 bit, the PvP guild can get away with this with the line: "Yeah but we didn't touch it ourselfs! we only made a rune. Simple seeing in my opinion: You make a rune above the house. Rune made, cause, you. Rune destroys the building, cause, Rune.

Cause is by rune, but who made the rune ... =S?

~StodgY

Im not sure where this thread is going, and its so dated and with no evidence... In my experience building on someone elses property is a type of griefing thusly named construction griefing. Usually used inorder to gain access to places you otherwise wouldnt be able to on someone elses property. Usually harmless exploration however i would personally consider the area above someones house part of their house. so building a rune over someones house shouldnt be within the rules, if someone went over your castle and built a log cabin directly over it wouldnt you consider that trespassing? Rules need to be specific for depth.

On a tangent, i've had cases where someone built an elaborate underground fortress, and then someone built a protected city over part of it above ground and the person with the underground city couldnt edit their place anymore as city protection was spanning sky to bedrock how do you determine who has the rights neither was aware of the others presence until the protection went up.

Cases like this are one of the reasons why we are rolling out a more detailed rule list when we hit 1.6. I personally didn't know runes could glitch and remove blocks underneath them, and now we all know what happens it won't, or shouldn't happen again.