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New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

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Post n°1

New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-10, 07:00

Hello Folks.

Firsly, DON'T PANIC!

Secondly, do not make questions about possible map resets or anything like that. This is not the thread for that!

This thread is however, for the sole discussion and development of possible new designs for a spawn for future Orcworm.co.uk SMP.

We, as the Orcworm Staff, love to hear your ideas, and most of them are always considered and appreciated.

Please come up with some goodens and we can begin work! (This does not mean that it'll speed up a map reset, (or anything like that) but it does mean, if we do require a map reset, we have a new spawn available). This is very early planning, and not even necessarily going to happen. We may keep the old spawn, but it can't harm to throw some ideas about now can it?

If you troll/question about map resets/go off-topic i will see that you receive a punishment, because this thread is very important to Orcworm SMP!

Thankyou, and get your creative hats on!

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Post n°2

Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by patrickfreed 2011-09-10, 07:12

Personally, I have never seen a better spawn than the one Orc has, I vote for not changing it Wink

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-10, 07:12

Obv the idea is to top it. So we're going to need some good idea's and good designers.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Yarwood 2011-09-10, 07:20

Fix the lag. Nuff said Razz

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Jarvisd 2011-09-10, 07:24

We could do a portion of a good city, and copy the buildings of said region, and then sell rooms in those buildings as shops, but they'd not be allowed to edit the walls, so we could keep a same design throughout the city. Anyone got an idea for a good city?

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by onlinerocker 2011-09-10, 07:36

Make multiple towers

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Yarwood 2011-09-10, 07:40

I think combining Acheron would be quite good. Stricter rules on the buildings.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Orcworm 2011-09-10, 07:40

We need to get whats his face who was the head of the first spawn's construction back on here for a week.

And yeah, there is no spawn out there that's better than our current one ;p.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by onlinerocker 2011-09-10, 07:41

Orcworm wrote:We need to get whats his face who was the head of the first spawn's construction back on here for a week.

Ah yes, whats his face.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by G 2011-09-10, 07:43

I hate wAlking down those goddamn stairs. Preferably a huge drop in the middle and landing in wtaer would be SOOO fuckin great

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Orcworm 2011-09-10, 07:44

If the new chunks do have a higher height limit we could have a nice drop...

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Yarwood 2011-09-10, 07:46

DAVID CHARLTON: I'll drop you..

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-10, 08:10

Fuck that Drop, the walk is half the awesomeness.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by darkxephos 2011-09-10, 08:26

Get rid of the spawn tower, all those stairs are horrible ... I might actually mess around on a single player world and try build a new spawn building. The actual spawn city is fine but a little bit too big.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Jarvisd 2011-09-10, 08:27

Maybe you misread the Op guys. We want to make a new spawn that is better, and actually has a standard for the buildings in it and has more room for shops, more like the V.2 spawn. We don't want to just remake the spawn tower <_< This thread is a reason why one should ignore the laity grint.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-10, 08:31

Without the Laity we are nothing my friend ;p. During my awesomeness literature speeches, i'm not always "direct to the point", so i'll allow them some miss understanding ;p.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by uberblake 2011-09-10, 10:36

Maybe like an indoor mall idea. Once you get to the bottom of the spawn tower, there's a double, possibly triple, story mall that has plenty of shop plots available.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Chazdude42 2011-09-10, 10:51

The mall sounds like a good plan to me that lets people be creative but contains it. The mall in Valenwyre for example is brilliant but there isnt enough stock/variance of items there so more indigidual shops would be great Very Happy

Very Happy

I had a suggestion that all the buildings are exactly the same shape and size (so everything matches) but with the freedom to change the material the building is made out of.

I also like the idea of the Acheron merger but without any of the existing buildings/shops (cos there are some that are less pretty than others)

When im back from shopping later today (its 1am atm lol) i'll have a go at getting a few ideas drawn down for the design as well, im on my ipod atm so cant do it now and i have quite a few ides for different designs.

As for keeping the existing spawn, im all for that too but can you get rid of the fountains, they look good but they make me lag horrifically suggesting that tgeyre a factor to the spawn lag issue

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by luminousmouse 2011-09-10, 11:24

I do like the mall idea, but on the other hand I like how spawn is now, with a large tower or something along those lines with shops and statues around it.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Rykleos 2011-09-10, 11:43

I think we need a universal building design and a SQUARE SPAWN. Also, remove the long walk from the top of spawn with a nice flat spawn in the center of the square city. It could have a dutch or modern, futuristic or stone age theme. Just some ideas. Again: NO CIRCLES

Edit: Also, I think an idea of apartment complexes lining the streets going at 1k a pop or 100 a week to rent, and market STALLS instead of shops with a general stall feel to it for 3k a stall or 200/week to rent.

Just my 50 CENT!

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by uberblake 2011-09-10, 12:15

Rykleos wrote:I think we need a universal building design and a SQUARE SPAWN. Also, remove the long walk from the top of spawn with a nice flat spawn in the center of the square city. It could have a dutch or modern, futuristic or stone age theme. Just some ideas. Again: NO CIRCLES

Edit: Also, I think an idea of apartment complexes lining the streets going at 1k a pop or 100 a week to rent, and market STALLS instead of shops with a general stall feel to it for 3k a stall or 200/week to rent.

Just my 50 CENT!

An Octagonal city.
Squares just look like someone decided to lazily use WE.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Rykleos 2011-09-10, 12:22

Sure, just a circle gives awkwardly cut plots and stuff.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by paradox74 2011-09-10, 12:26

i like the current one, but i think the spawn plot builders should be given a list of certain materials they can build their shops with(to keep the same style and feel).
however if we want an entirely different spawn......

i hate to link other servers but, i like this because it works with the landscape(which was hand made). if we could incorporate some land into it i think that would be awesome(more than the terraces we have now.

Rykleos wrote:Sure, just a circle gives awkwardly cut plots and stuff.

How about a non-Euclidean triangle?

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by onlinerocker 2011-09-10, 12:31

paradox74 wrote:i like the current one, but i think the spawn plot builders should be given a list of certain materials they can build their shops with(to keep the same style and feel).
however if we want an entirely different spawn......

i hate to link other servers but, i like this because it works with the landscape(which was hand made). if we could incorporate some land into it i think that would be awesome(more than the terraces we have now.

Rykleos wrote:Sure, just a circle gives awkwardly cut plots and stuff.

How about a non-Euclidean triangle?

I'm speechless about that video, those are great builders.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by aapl2 2011-09-10, 16:57

i say make it more friendly to the people who have slower computers going down that tower is a bitch with all those torches and what not happening.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by luminousmouse 2011-09-10, 17:12

aapl2 wrote:i say make it more friendly to the people who have slower computers going down that tower is a bitch with all those torches and what not happening.

Really the only reason spawn was so laggy was because of all the NPC's, which were recently removed Smile

Smile

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Psychotron_3000 2011-09-10, 18:05

Rykleos wrote:I think we need a universal building design and a SQUARE SPAWN. Also, remove the long walk from the top of spawn with a nice flat spawn in the center of the square city. It could have a dutch or modern, futuristic or stone age theme. Just some ideas. Again: NO CIRCLES

Edit: Also, I think an idea of apartment complexes lining the streets going at 1k a pop or 100 a week to rent, and market STALLS instead of shops with a general stall feel to it for 3k a stall or 200/week to rent.

Just my 50 CENT!

Squares look awful. I like the lack of straight lines and having different shaped plots just means that the builders need to get creative and original as opposed to run of the mill bland boxes.
I think something like a village nestled in a bigass valley might be cool. Problem is it could be confusing on how to get out, unless we do what we have done for this spawn and in the spawn tower there are bridges that lead to the edges of the enclosing terrain (North, South, East and West).
This could make spawn seem like a more natural sort of area and more like a town, and using the idea of only the inside of buildings can be changed would be nice too. Could become very unfocussed and difficult to navigate though...

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-10, 19:06

So far you guys are really lacking creativity.

I mean come on, all we've had is complaints about server lag and don't do this and don't do that.

Our current spawn is amazing, the walk is adds to the experience, if you don't like it, go Donate.

Stop complaining and give us bloody ideas!

And a Square is probably not our best bet... Circle is probably the hardest and most effective, but i want you guys to prove that statement wrong.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by GaMerG77 2011-09-10, 19:15

Make spawn give more of a welcoming and warm welcome.
Instead of spawning on top you spawn on the bottom where there is a mall as uber suggested and you have to walk up and you can drop down or walk out.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Monstaboi 2011-09-11, 05:41

if somebody could direct me to a map of the spawn i would make some edits and reply /w an edited spawn Razz

Razz

and also, i can/will design a chaos server spawn if needed Razz

Razz

not to big, though

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Rykleos 2011-09-11, 07:10

Grintendo wrote:So far you guys are really lacking creativity.

I mean come on, all we've had is complaints about server lag and don't do this and don't do that.

Our current spawn is amazing, the walk is adds to the experience, if you don't like it, go Donate.

Stop complaining and give us bloody ideas!

And a Square is probably not our best bet... Circle is probably the hardest and most effective, but i want you guys to prove that statement wrong.

Don't ask for ideas if you don't want criticism. I gave you ideas, I'm not going to sit here and kiss up to the old design. I"m bringing in fresh looks to the thing. Circle is in no way good because of triangle and sloped cut offs. Walking down those stairs is hideously tiring and can be simplified by moving the spawn location down a few floors.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Jarvisd 2011-09-11, 09:43

Thanks rykleos, we were not planning on stair or a circle. Your suggestions were really helpfull. Go back to doing what you do.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by DoughnutSpanker 2011-09-11, 10:20

I think the new spawn should be in a valley, with great huge waterfalls and fountains. There should be a tower in the center, and areas for different things around it. (Prepare for nerdrefrence) Like the Imperial City in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

Overhead Layout Map:

Overhead:

Interior Style:

Yeah, that's what I'd like to see.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by blockybalboa 2011-09-11, 10:26

use the gargamel seed if you want a valley!

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by uberblake 2011-09-11, 10:38

blockybalboa wrote:use the gargamel seed if you want a valley!

Use the gargamel seed if you want anything good.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by skoglol 2011-09-11, 10:38

Protip: Steer clear of glowstone, it creates lag.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by patrickfreed 2011-09-11, 11:05

Imperial city is massive, already tried to build that one myself Razz

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-11, 11:08

skoglol wrote:Protip: Steer clear of glowstone, it creates lag.

Did you need read my freaking post?

DoughnutSpanker wrote:I think the new spawn should be in a valley, with great huge waterfalls and fountains. There should be a tower in the center, and areas for different things around it. (Prepare for nerdrefrence) Like the Imperial City in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

Overhead Layout Map:

Overhead:

Interior Style:

Yeah, that's what I'd like to see.

Finally a real idea Great work!!!

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by blockybalboa 2011-09-11, 11:22

this:

Spoiler:

+

Spoiler:

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Spoiler:

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by skoglol 2011-09-11, 12:11

Grintendo wrote:

skoglol wrote:Protip: Steer clear of glowstone, it creates lag.

Did you need read my freaking post?

Umm, wat?

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Orcworm 2011-09-11, 12:14

Unlike freed we would probably have the time and talent to pull off the Imperial City... can't say it'd be worse than our current spawn at any rate.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by patrickfreed 2011-09-11, 12:27

For your information, one of my players is still working on it Razz

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by uberblake 2011-09-11, 12:33

patrickfreed wrote:For your information, one of my players is still working on it

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by GoDjMike 2011-09-11, 14:02

Isn't Jayberry the one still working on it? If so, poor kid...

And the Imperial City idea = hard work, but good payoff.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by patrickfreed 2011-09-11, 14:18

GoDjMike wrote:Isn't Jayberry the one still working on it? If so, poor kid...

And the Imperial City idea = hard work, but good payoff.

Jberry* And yes, he is currently working on it. Razz

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-11, 21:09

Looks like we should take a crack at Imperial City. We've got a tonna' talent roaming about our server, just need to pick those precious gems out of the dirt Wink

Wink

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by WeatherChanging 2011-09-12, 01:27

I think, designing a city should rely on a "theme". So what do you want?

A freely floating island in the sky?

Spoiler:

Or something entirely built on ice - in a slightly asiatic style:

Spoiler:

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Grintendo 2011-09-12, 02:05

I did like Jar's idea about having pre set shops/w.e. Yes, it removes creativity but it'll be more pleasant and recognizable to the eye.

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by Jarvisd 2011-09-12, 03:25

I like doughnuts idea, but what do y'all think about a british colonial theme...

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Re: New Spawn Suggestion Thread!

by sieve 2011-09-12, 03:26

New Spawn Suggestion Thread! Stoprighttherep

Imperial city, you say?

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