Complete Map Reset [Update 1.4]

This is a general vote - who would agree to a Complete Map Reset?

Of course, all donator privileges will be transferred (such as zones, compass etc)

The reset will include (if not already obvious)
A completely new map, new economy/reset gil.

Also, keep this spam-free/topic-related.

Anything you want saving I could send to you in .schematic form to load up in your singleplayer worlds and whatnot. There are also daily backups of the map if you wanted to keep everything. Of course, I'm not saying this reset will happen - just if it did.

Orc-Edit: As FillerB said:

FillerB wrote:Just a reminder before everyone get too worked up. This whole thing is a SUGGESTION. It is in no way final that there will be a wipe.

Max of 5 citys, we copy over the spawn city + Orcworm Statue with World Edit

I'm in support of this. Completely clean, untouched, unharnessed, virgin soil? 'twould be a thing of beauty!

Edit: Ninja'd. Only five cities, total? That would take some of the fun out of the game... building settlements and plots within them is one of the things that keeps interesting things to do in the game. With a max of five, there's suddenly nothing else to do but wander around and gather useless materials.

Could also choose a new biome, playing on that desert map has given me some ideas ;p.

5 "Major" Cities max, but perhaps smaller communal villages without the huge 100 block high buildings etc. Something similar to Grintendo / Zzintopia?

no, just... no. i just started to feel comfortable at my place, took me 3 month to make it look good

And we have BB now. We could keep area around spawn clean'n other awesome stuff.
EDIT: FUCK YEZ! ANOTHER AWESOME BIOME

Rendarg wrote:no, just... no. i just started to feel comfortable at my place, took me 3 month to make it look good

I could probably copy that over, may be challenging considering it's embedded into the mountain though.

I say that spawn city should have the current houses/shops reset as well.

/me wants a home in spawn city.

Other than that, HELL YES for the map reset.

hell no ... dont restart the map ive only just got a home set up properly

I dont like it. That would mean I lose my awesome obsidian castle, and my newly finished (had it for one whole day) close to perfect mob trap. These things have taken a lot of time!

We all'll restart, stop whining (except admins without home )

im entirely in support of this, i know you guys have been going around to abandoned houses of banned people and such, but there are still lots of empty house shells that clutter the server plus then the land wouldnt be farmed of all the rescources.

We're ALL reset, not just a select few. I think it's an excellent idea.

Yeah, if we copy over only a few creations etc, they'd have an advantage over the other players.

Also, when/if we copy the spawncity, we'll have to clear the buildings below too.

Yar knows where it's at.

Anything you want saving I could send to you in .schematic form to load up in your singleplayer worlds and whatnot. There are also daily backups of the map if you wanted to keep everything. Of course, I'm not saying this reset will happen - just if it did.

Noooooooo!!!! That would mean all the shit filmjolk helped me make would be gone

Just thought of this; how did people end up getting over 20,000g anyway?

They played for nearly two weeks in the past three months.

@Yar:
I personally saved up (to buy your home in spawn to be exact :3).

i would lose all the ground work iv done on all my bulds that havent started yet but i dont care as much because everry one would loose every thing. i love this idea please do it.

Yeah, but..

Let's say we've only had 200 players log in and spend their gil, if they started with only 100gil, then the max total in the economy would be 20000 ? Or, did we have a sell to shop feature at one point?

I dont like inconomy anyways, we need another currency.

I also have quite a home myself. I'd GLADLY sacrifice my home to have a server reset, as we'd ALL start brand new.

PureCraft wrote:I dont like inconomy anyways, we need another currency.

A lot of plugins rely on iConomy... a lot...

Every one would have the same Gil to start and the economy would rebalance it's self sothat diamonds become worth say 50 Gil instead of the 15 gil that I have seen some go for

Orcworm wrote:

PureCraft wrote:I dont like inconomy anyways, we need another currency.

A lot of plugins rely on iConomy... a lot...

which ones other than the obvious ones like auctions and shops?

Custom drops is another.

a fresh start would be good, but I was wondering when?

When the 1.4 Update is released

i.e., sometime this week, according to Notch

i have finished my stadium now and its not working as I would like.

So i Vote Yes

Im all for this! I cant mine 5 blocks without running into an already mined area! Finding diamonds is next to impossible, or any other ore for that matter.

Please could you save my town.
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i find diamonds and lapis constantly i dont know what youre talking about

We won't be saving any creations to transfer over to the next map, however we can save them so you can import them into singleplayer if you wish to.

Good, since that would be exceptionally unfair to the others.

I'm all for a new start, as well as the 5 big town limit. I've seen lots of almost empty towns and full towns that are just deserted.

Orc: you could always upload the old world on a bunch of file sites, people can look up their creations in single player or just look around the old map if they feel like it.

Though I hope it won't only be a desert biome, I miss snow biomes on the actual map already ;p

AGREED and i want to have a variety of biomes as well

While I'm all for a map reset (more variance in biomes mostly) I do not think we should do this as soon as 1.4 (and the necessary bukkit/plugin-updates) roll out. We should rather take some time to discuss some of the current "problems" on the server and how to fix this in the new iteration. Examples of these problems are the ridiculous amount of towns that tend to spring up, the disastrously bad economy and the difficulty to get around the map without relying on commands like /home. Only when we have some promising solutions to these problems should we switch and I really, really doubt we could think up of ways to fix them that everyone is happy with within the week.

FillerB wrote:While I'm all for a map reset (more variance in biomes mostly) I do not think we should do this as soon as 1.4 (and the necessary bukkit/plugin-updates) roll out. We should rather take some time to discuss some of the current "problems" on the server and how to fix this in the new iteration. Examples of these problems are the ridiculous amount of towns that tend to spring up, the disastrously bad economy and the difficulty to get around the map without relying on commands like /home. Only when we have some promising solutions to these problems should we switch and I really, really doubt we could think up of ways to fix them that everyone is happy with within the week.

That's why there's an Admin Discussion subforum. If you're truly concerned, we could discuss that there, not in the public ones.

I do like this idea in some aspects, and not in others, some people have worked ssooo hard in this world, I know i dont want Zzintopia to just dissappear

So maybe a reward system carried over, not that'll give people a huge start ahead, maybe the top 10 richest players of the last world get a reward in the next? or something like that?

Hell and no. If it's restarted for one, it's restarted for all. Stop bargaining. >.>

As Yar said, if you want it imported to your SSP, that's fine, but NOT for the server.

Sorry, i wasnt just refering to things that people have built, im not that bothered about keeping our town, i just put alot of effort in to it, with the money id earnt from it and id earnt from selling stuff and other things, I was eventually going to spend it on buying something awesome maybe shell it all on employing a load of newbies to build me a pyramid with a statue of me ontop, or something along those lines... xD

I know that anyone who made quite abit of money will hate to see it dissappear

Hey, in the new map, you'd have all the room in the world (hypothetically speaking, of course) for it!

One way to slow down the economy instability is reducing the gil/minute or creating a money sink. If you do the math:
Average 30 people on
1-2 gil/min

between 40-80k gil is passively put into circulation every day. Since there are no money sink apart from zoning, the economy will be flooded with gil. Find a way for players to pay for e.g. perks players want with a limited duration, and you should have a rather stable economy.

Or have some device of sorts to accumulate a cash flow. I do like the "kill mobs for cash" idea but the 1-2gil/minute thing kills the economy when one just idles and winds up with 50k+ gil.

skoglol wrote:One way to slow down the economy instability is reducing the gil/minute or creating a money sink. If you do the math:
Average 30 people on
1-2 gil/min

between 40-80k gil is passively put into circulation every day. Since there are no money sink apart from zoning, the economy will be flooded with gil. Find a way for players to pay for e.g. perks players want with a limited duration, and you should have a rather stable economy.

once again i agree that that is one way to fix the economy but it may take some time to balance out

Not really...

If the map is reset, so will our gil, thus the change would be instantaneous.