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Zuwrath tp kill
killerdonkey1- Posts : 43
Join date : 2011-04-29
Age : 26
Location : Corstophine Edinburgh Scotland
- Post n°1
Zuwrath tp kill
Zuwrath has tped to me a number of times without my permission he has also in the past use compass to get close to me and for the second time today he has tp kmilled me i know this beacause he failed an attempt to tp to me in the first place by saying t/tp killer. He tped to me when i was goin threw a warp portal he came oput and killed me then started to swear at me. As this is nort the first time anyione has reported him as a matteer of fact i have reported him 2 times now this tim e ib want something to be done i lost 49 arrows a full set of iron armnour a bow and a diamond sword he and a so I wangt an end to that two plz gropup of others jhubbz and Godjmike or somethingv like that keep killling me and my friend sergentpineapple
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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- Post n°2
Re: Zuwrath tp kill
-sigh-
Log me.
Story is, he and SergentPineapple tricked NeroTheDarkLord into going into a Teleporter, then killed him. So, what did I do? Exacted revenge on Nero's behalf. I watched them do it, so I planned it carefully.
TPed to killerdonkey1 to see his location (I saw someone running out of spawn, wanted a confirmation), so it was him... so? I /spawn, compass to the west exit, and beat him to where he wanted to go.
Outside of spawn, he has this little water tunnel that goes up to a tower with a teleporter to his house. So? I run to that tunnel before he gets there... I run inside, compass a bit (_all_ the doors were open (they still are right now) to make it faster, and hold shift. I see him run up the tower.
He goes into the teleporter. I make my move. I run up and right click the teleporter, and sure enough, there he is.
So, I mess him up, and he freaks out.
I rant to him about it being revenge, and bam, complaint.
So, Ima wait for the loggy-doggies.
Log me.
Story is, he and SergentPineapple tricked NeroTheDarkLord into going into a Teleporter, then killed him. So, what did I do? Exacted revenge on Nero's behalf. I watched them do it, so I planned it carefully.
TPed to killerdonkey1 to see his location (I saw someone running out of spawn, wanted a confirmation), so it was him... so? I /spawn, compass to the west exit, and beat him to where he wanted to go.
Outside of spawn, he has this little water tunnel that goes up to a tower with a teleporter to his house. So? I run to that tunnel before he gets there... I run inside, compass a bit (_all_ the doors were open (they still are right now) to make it faster, and hold shift. I see him run up the tower.
He goes into the teleporter. I make my move. I run up and right click the teleporter, and sure enough, there he is.
So, I mess him up, and he freaks out.
I rant to him about it being revenge, and bam, complaint.
So, Ima wait for the loggy-doggies.
Monstaboi- Posts : 1432
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- Post n°3
Re: Zuwrath tp kill
oh my god, that was painful to read, killerdonkey. at LEAST, use multiple sentances.
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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Age : 31
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Also, I just read his post... like actually read it.
I can't wait for the logs
I didn't cuss at him. And, yeah, I fail /tp'd to him, but anyway, logs.
I can't wait for the logs
I didn't cuss at him. And, yeah, I fail /tp'd to him, but anyway, logs.
FillerB- So long and thanks for all the fish!
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
No logs yet, but this fable by Aesop may interest you.
“A shepherd-boy, who watched a flock of sheep near a village, brought out the villagers three or four times by crying out, "Wolf! Wolf!" and when his neighbors came to help him, laughed at them for their pains. The Wolf, however, did truly come at last. The Shepherd-boy, now really alarmed, shouted in an agony of terror: "Pray, do come and help me; the Wolf is killing the sheep"; but no one paid any heed to his cries, nor rendered any assistance. The Wolf, having no cause of fear, at his leisure lacerated or destroyed the whole flock.”
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Btw, just posting some screenshots showing the doors in the tunnel being open.
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Monstaboi- Posts : 1432
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Although i have to say, it pisses me off that no matter how a donator kills somebody, it MUST be tp kill, then they complain on the forums and get proved wrong.
Cagu- Posts : 62
Join date : 2011-04-23
- Post n°9
Re: Zuwrath tp kill
By ZuWraths story he seems to admit twice to teleporting/compass abuse.
lolyounoob1- Posts : 232
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Jarvisd- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
I am pretty sure you can't use compass to kill people zuwrath even if they are running away... And telling others bullshit like that is a bad idea.
Cagu- Posts : 62
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- Post n°12
Re: Zuwrath tp kill
ZuWrath wrote:-sigh-
Log me.
Story is, he and SergentPineapple tricked NeroTheDarkLord into going into a Teleporter, then killed him. So, what did I do? Exacted revenge on Nero's behalf. I watched them do it, so I planned it carefully.
TPed to killerdonkey1 to see his location (I saw someone running out of spawn, wanted a confirmation), so it was him... so? I /spawn, compass to the west exit, and beat him to where he wanted to go.
Outside of spawn, he has this little water tunnel that goes up to a tower with a teleporter to his house. So? I run to that tunnel before he gets there... I run inside, compass a bit (_all_ the doors were open (they still are right now) to make it faster, and hold shift. I see him run up the tower.
He goes into the teleporter. I make my move. I run up and right click the teleporter, and sure enough, there he is.
So, I mess him up, and he freaks out.
I rant to him about it being revenge, and bam, complaint.
So, Ima wait for the loggy-doggies.
As his post said he first abuses his teleporting ability by finding where killer is, then rushes in with a compass to his position. Seems to me like an obvious PVP advantage. The fact is he never would have made the kill without using all his donator abilities.
How many times does Zuwrath have to get caught?
Pete- Posts : 3194
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
I think he means to run away... Like... You-re getting pwned to so TP far away.
patrickfreed- Forum Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Jar he meant unless he is running away...I think
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SlaveofRH- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Unless YOU'RE running away. You CAN use the compass to run away, which has been stated before is not much different then /home-ing or going to spawn, which every player has the ability to use. You can also compass to higher areas. As far as I can see he hasn't done anything wrong. Unless he teleported next to said person and killed them on the spot. It is also not illegal to teleport to people as long as you don't kill them within the first few minutes.Jarvisd wrote:I am pretty sure you can't use compass to kill people zuwrath even if they are running away... And telling others bullshit like that is a bad idea.
Cagu- Posts : 62
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
SlaveofRH wrote:Unless YOU'RE running away. You CAN use the compass to run away, which has been stated before is not much different then /home-ing or going to spawn, which every player has the ability to use. You can also compass to higher areas. As far as I can see he hasn't done anything wrong. Unless he teleported next to said person and killed them on the spot. It is also not illegal to teleport to people as long as you don't kill them within the first few minutes.Jarvisd wrote:I am pretty sure you can't use compass to kill people zuwrath even if they are running away... And telling others bullshit like that is a bad idea.
His story suggests he killed him much sooner than a few minutes. He also teleported to Killer to gain his position so he could use his compass to then reach him. It's blatant abuse.
SlaveofRH- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Cagu wrote:SlaveofRH wrote:Unless YOU'RE running away. You CAN use the compass to run away, which has been stated before is not much different then /home-ing or going to spawn, which every player has the ability to use. You can also compass to higher areas. As far as I can see he hasn't done anything wrong. Unless he teleported next to said person and killed them on the spot. It is also not illegal to teleport to people as long as you don't kill them within the first few minutes.Jarvisd wrote:I am pretty sure you can't use compass to kill people zuwrath even if they are running away... And telling others bullshit like that is a bad idea.
His story suggests he killed him much sooner than a few minutes. He also teleported to Killer to gain his position so he could use his compass to then reach him. It's blatant abuse.
I've never heard of teleporting to someone and writing down their coordinates being abuse, as they still have to walk there to get to people. Also, you could lock your doors, /home, /spawn, or whatever to protect yourself. People are obviously not smart enough to do that though, but that doesn't make it the donators fault. Using the compass to teleport long distances is also legal. He just cant tp next to you and kill you on the spot, as I said.
Cagu- Posts : 62
Join date : 2011-04-23
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Read what he says. It's abuse to teleport to someone and kill them right? All he did was teleport to him. Find his exact position at the time, then use his compass to reach him in no time at all and kill him.
If he marked down to co ordinates of his base and went to look for him that would have been fine. But he didn't. He found out where killer was then rushed him using a compass - and I wasn't there, I'm just using Zuwraths story.
Having seen Zuwrath abuse his compass before this doesn't surprise me.
If he marked down to co ordinates of his base and went to look for him that would have been fine. But he didn't. He found out where killer was then rushed him using a compass - and I wasn't there, I'm just using Zuwraths story.
Having seen Zuwrath abuse his compass before this doesn't surprise me.
SlaveofRH- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
So you're saying he compassed to him and killed him on the spot? Or did he compass to a nearby area and stay there for a minute or two before going after him? Zu is confident the logs wont show anything incriminating, and compass movements show up in the logs, so I don't think he did anything illegal.Cagu wrote:Read what he says. It's abuse to teleport to someone and kill them right? All he did was teleport to him. Find his exact position at the time, then use his compass to reach him in no time at all and kill him.
If he marked down to co ordinates of his base and went to look for him that would have been fine. But he didn't. He found out where killer was then rushed him using a compass - and I wasn't there, I'm just using Zuwraths story.
Having seen Zuwrath abuse his compass before this doesn't surprise me.
Cagu- Posts : 62
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
SlaveofRH wrote:So you're saying he compassed to him and killed him on the spot? Or did he compass to a nearby area and stay there for a minute or two before going after him? Zu is confident the logs wont show anything incriminating, and compass movements show up in the logs, so I don't think he did anything illegal.
Well lets look at what Zu says?
SlaveofRH wrote:I run to that tunnel before he gets there... I run inside, compass a bit (_all_ the doors were open (they still are right now) to make it faster, and hold shift. I see him run up the tower.
He goes into the teleporter. I make my move. I run up and right click the teleporter, and sure enough, there he is.
So, I mess him up, and he freaks out.
Does that sound like a minute or two break or a rush?
Jarvisd- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Compass movements are in the logs? Damn that must be a 2gb log, because I compass port all the time and I bet everyone else does.
SlaveofRH- In-Game Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Yes they are.. They're shown as /thru and /jumpto...Jarvisd wrote:Compass movements are in the logs? Damn that must be a 2gb log, because I compass port all the time and I bet everyone else does.
Don't you have access to console?
Cagu:
Cagu wrote:SlaveofRH wrote:So you're saying he compassed to him and killed him on the spot? Or did he compass to a nearby area and stay there for a minute or two before going after him? Zu is confident the logs wont show anything incriminating, and compass movements show up in the logs, so I don't think he did anything illegal.
Well lets look at what Zu says?SlaveofRH wrote:I run to that tunnel before he gets there... I run inside, compass a bit (_all_ the doors were open (they still are right now) to make it faster, and hold shift. I see him run up the tower.
He goes into the teleporter. I make my move. I run up and right click the teleporter, and sure enough, there he is.
So, I mess him up, and he freaks out.
Does that sound like a minute or two break or a rush?
He said he compassed through open doors and waited for him to go through a teleporter, then he went through and killed him. I dunno how legal it is to compass ahead of someone, to wait and kill them when they catch up.. but he says he didnt tp kill him.
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Krellyn- Posts : 813
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- Post n°23
Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Lol, Cagu is soooo biased.
So, let's get this straight here.
You can't use your compass to get right up in someone's face and kill them. I used my compass to get far ahead of him, then wait for him, then kill him (perfectly legal, as was last told to me by a couple of nameless admins (unless the need for names should arise)).
I didn't use my TP to get his coordinates. Read my post again, smart one. I said I used to my TP to confirm whether or not it was him I saw. What did I do after? READ, if you're going to make an argument, READ.
Which, again, is perfectly legal. I didn't compass straight to him, pop shots, compass away, then compass back and finish the job.
Anyway. So, TPing to someone isn't illegal if you want to find their location, just so you know. I mean, if I'm like... on the hunt for this one guy because this other guy wants me to kill him, I will TP to the guy, not show any threat, make sure Im in his house, then grab the coords. If they say "I don't want you TPing to me anymore," then, fine, I won't... but hey, bud, I have your coords.
He was on the run, so, it's not like I teleported to find where he was and make sure he was afk so I can drop his ass.
Cagu, get your story straight before showcasing it in a complaint thread that isn't even about you, mmkay?
So, let's get this straight here.
You can't use your compass to get right up in someone's face and kill them. I used my compass to get far ahead of him, then wait for him, then kill him (perfectly legal, as was last told to me by a couple of nameless admins (unless the need for names should arise)).
I didn't use my TP to get his coordinates. Read my post again, smart one. I said I used to my TP to confirm whether or not it was him I saw. What did I do after? READ, if you're going to make an argument, READ.
ZuWrath wrote:TPed to killerdonkey1 to see his location (I saw someone running out of spawn, wanted a confirmation), so it was him... so? I /spawn, compass to the west exit, and beat him to where he wanted to go.
Which, again, is perfectly legal. I didn't compass straight to him, pop shots, compass away, then compass back and finish the job.
Anyway. So, TPing to someone isn't illegal if you want to find their location, just so you know. I mean, if I'm like... on the hunt for this one guy because this other guy wants me to kill him, I will TP to the guy, not show any threat, make sure Im in his house, then grab the coords. If they say "I don't want you TPing to me anymore," then, fine, I won't... but hey, bud, I have your coords.
He was on the run, so, it's not like I teleported to find where he was and make sure he was afk so I can drop his ass.
Cagu, get your story straight before showcasing it in a complaint thread that isn't even about you, mmkay?
Cagu- Posts : 62
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
ZuWrath wrote:I didn't use my TP to get his coordinates. Read my post again, smart one. I said I used to my TP to confirm whether or not it was him I saw. What did I do after? READ, if you're going to make an argument, READ.
You're funny because you in fact didn't read. I never accused you of teleporting to him to get his coordinates. I simply drawn attention to the fact you shamelessly told the forum you teleported to him to find out his position. Then using this advantage you rushed to where he was heading using your compass. Face it. If you didn't teleport to him before. If you didn't rush to his position using the compass, none of this would have happened.
I don't need to get my story straight since I'm simply pointing out the story you have posted.
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Cagu wrote:ZuWrath wrote:I didn't use my TP to get his coordinates. Read my post again, smart one. I said I used to my TP to confirm whether or not it was him I saw. What did I do after? READ, if you're going to make an argument, READ.
You're funny because you in fact didn't read. I never accused you of teleporting to him to get his coordinates. I simply drawn attention to the fact you shamelessly told the forum you teleported to him to find out his position. Then using this advantage you rushed to where he was heading using your compass. Face it. If you didn't teleport to him before. If you didn't rush to his position using the compass, none of this would have happened.
I don't need to get my story straight since I'm simply pointing out the story you have posted.
Again, you haven't read. You try to strengthen your argument by cutting out my whole post with your quote. That isn't adding strength, that is denying the weakness.
Read the whole post that you just quoted, then reply.
Cagu- Posts : 62
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
I don't need to comment individually to your elaborated story. The facts stand which you still haven't addressed:
I simply drawn attention to the fact you shamelessly told the forum you teleported to him to find out his position. Then using this advantage you rushed to where he was heading using your compass. Face it. If you didn't teleport to him before. If you didn't rush to his position using the compass, none of this would have happened.
I simply drawn attention to the fact you shamelessly told the forum you teleported to him to find out his position. Then using this advantage you rushed to where he was heading using your compass. Face it. If you didn't teleport to him before. If you didn't rush to his position using the compass, none of this would have happened.
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
But, Cagu, you're being ignorant.
The whole point being developed is that it isn't illegal to:
1- TP to someone to see their location (even though I saw him before tping to him as confirmation)
2- Compass ahead of someone in expectation to kill them.
It's not different than just running behind someone in spawn and following them, knowing exactly where they're going (because, you obviously don't realize this by now, I KNEW he was going to that tunnel when he wasn't NEAR it yet), then compassing ahead of them to await them.
Again, it's not like I compass 5 blocks ahead of him and fucked him up. I compass over 50 blocks ahead of him, waited for him to enter his little teleporter, then fucked him up.
Either way, this has just disproven you, and since this has been done, you should stop posting in a complaint thread that isn't against you, lest you be.... taken out. -gasp-
The whole point being developed is that it isn't illegal to:
1- TP to someone to see their location (even though I saw him before tping to him as confirmation)
2- Compass ahead of someone in expectation to kill them.
It's not different than just running behind someone in spawn and following them, knowing exactly where they're going (because, you obviously don't realize this by now, I KNEW he was going to that tunnel when he wasn't NEAR it yet), then compassing ahead of them to await them.
Again, it's not like I compass 5 blocks ahead of him and fucked him up. I compass over 50 blocks ahead of him, waited for him to enter his little teleporter, then fucked him up.
Either way, this has just disproven you, and since this has been done, you should stop posting in a complaint thread that isn't against you, lest you be.... taken out. -gasp-
Cagu- Posts : 62
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
It's not different than just running behind someone in spawn and following them, knowing exactly where they're going (because, you obviously don't realize this by now, I KNEW he was going to that tunnel when he wasn't NEAR it yet), then compassing ahead of them to await them.
You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper Zuwrath. Of course it was different. You didn't know for sure it was him but teleported to make sure. Then with the information of his whereabouts you compassed ahead of him to where he was going to be. If like your example, you just ran out after him you never would have been able to trap him the way you did.
I'm posting here because it's funny that you're admitting to such abuse and think its fine. But anyway, off to sleep so don't expect another post from me.
You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper Zuwrath. Of course it was different. You didn't know for sure it was him but teleported to make sure. Then with the information of his whereabouts you compassed ahead of him to where he was going to be. If like your example, you just ran out after him you never would have been able to trap him the way you did.
I'm posting here because it's funny that you're admitting to such abuse and think its fine. But anyway, off to sleep so don't expect another post from me.
Krellyn- Posts : 813
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
Cagu wrote:It's not different than just running behind someone in spawn and following them, knowing exactly where they're going (because, you obviously don't realize this by now, I KNEW he was going to that tunnel when he wasn't NEAR it yet), then compassing ahead of them to await them.
You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper Zuwrath. *1Of course it was different. You didn't know for sure it was him but teleported to make sure. *2Then with the information of his whereabouts you compassed ahead of him to where he was going to be. *3If like your example, you just ran out after him you never would have been able to trap him the way you did.
I'm posting here because it's funny that you're admitting to such abuse and think its fine. But anyway, off to sleep so don't expect another post from me.
Again, you don't know what you're talking about...
*1: That's totally legit.
*2: Wrong, you didn't read, AGAIN. I /spawn'd, THEN compassed ahead of him, making it legal.
*3: Again, you didn't read. The example I gave is the same exact situation as is happening here, only other precautions were taken (which are, again, legal), thus making it completely fine.
You gotta stop disproving yourself. It's becoming a nuisance... makes me feel like I'm on /b/.
patrickfreed- Forum Staff
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Re: Zuwrath tp kill
To prevent more flaming, I'm going to lock this until we get an official staff response.
Also, stodgy had a bit to say so here's his input:
Also, stodgy had a bit to say so here's his input:
- stodgy's response:
- [quote="StodgY"]You Zu and Patrick.
Patrick I have an reply to Zu and would like someone else to read it also. It's about this thread:
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In the tp thread Cagu has a lil bit of a point.
He means that you saw killer at the spawn point. If you didn't use the compass u would be to late. I couldn't kill one. BUT here it comes. If you already had a way that you can actually be on time to rape him anyhow I understand your point.
Let's say you didn't use the TP and the compass. You come at spawn you look around. You see killer run away he don't know if it's him. You COULD be following the wrong guy. So if you did follow him without the TP you could follow the wrong guy and being to late to kill him at the spot you killed him.
Say you did follow the right dude, killer. He travels ahead to his teleporter to get to his place. You can't compass, for instance. He goes and goes and he knows the way. ANYTHING could have happened. You pass by another player you don't like and you kill him there and you come to late or you get attacked by zombies or skeletons. He has a faster way to his tower/teleport. By compassing you are FUCKING a lot more faster . I mean if you didn't use the compass and you killed him I would lmao ! Also, it's a really nice way to get revenge that's for sure.
Either way I think this isn't appropriate. When you think of it. You knew where he ran away to. U compassed further knowing he would go that way. Point is you, I think, wouldn't make it if you didn't use your compass. So you would be to late to kill him after he gone tru the TP.
The rules clearly states the donation features can't be used to have an advantage. You had an advantage by being faster than he can be. On the other hand. It could be he was wandering around or he was slowly going to his house, whatever. So you could get there in-time anyway. Also, what slave said. You can't killingly run away. You can ACT like you run away but you don't
I say your both right. You both have an excellent point. Though, I found it weird. I mean, I found you as a clever dude and you know doing this kind of shit is running into this kind of discussions.... I mean I think you have TONS of opportunities to get revenge . As clever as you are (probably more clever than killer) You easily find a way to own him in his face.
I'm just stating my thoughts. Also I think you could explain more. In this case it's important to know how far he was when you saw him when you /spawn-ed.
~StodgY
Ps: Also send to the topic closer.
These discussions are not needed. Just rape him in walking you, probably be faster anyways... Well, I think.
~StodgY[/quote