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    Post by PureCraft 2011-06-04, 02:44

    The rules changed, you can find it on the main page under the tab Rules
    http://www.orcworm.co.uk/rules.html

    or in the spoiler.

    BE ADVISED THAT THIS IS NOT THE FINAL RULESET AND IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND/OR INTERPRETATION DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DIFF. STAFF MEMBERS.


    Spoiler:
    Make this a global announcment please.


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    Post by Onlyme 2011-06-04, 02:46

    I love how the rules have a billion lines now, instead of just a few.

    But it closes any loopholes the old rules have left open. Very Happy
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-06-04, 02:47

    In real world terms nothing has really changed, just the wall of text means no-one can say "But the rules didn't state that!" - I think you'll find they *do* now.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-06-04, 02:54

    You know the "Spirit of Orcworm SMP" which I was taking way too long to write up would have just summed this all up in "The game is meant to be fun for everyone, so don't be an asshole". But this works too I guess.

    I do however haven an issue with the following:
    A) It is acceptable to repeatedly kill a player who has wronged you, so long as it does not violate any rules.

    Define "wronging" in this case. PvPing someone? Calling someone's mother the towns bicycle? Giving someone the evil eye? Waaaaaaaaaay too much ways in which this rule can be abused.


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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-04, 02:55

    these rules are an attempt to block any loopholes i guess, making it clearer and easier to ban players

    EDIT:

    less ways than the last set mate.
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    Post by patrickfreed 2011-06-04, 03:11

    +1 to whoever wrote these.
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-06-04, 03:25

    +3 to whoever wrote these!
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-04, 03:32

    ill give u guys a hint... he sucks 1278
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    Post by Mati 2011-06-04, 03:38

    Finally there is clarity. GJ.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-04, 03:38

    Spoiler:

    Refined set


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    Post by epvprul3s 2011-06-04, 04:14

    Hey Pure. It would be nice if you could add in Part 2: Donator+ powers if its allowed to get in other peoples building using the compass.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-04, 04:15

    no i am sure there is ule that you cannot gain acsess to resticted areas via: compass, /thru, /jumpto, /tp co-ordinates
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    Post by Rykleos 2011-06-04, 04:45

    Can we have a rule entailing that if you teleport to someone they MUST ask you to leave before they kill you. I see it unfair as in the punishment is one way if you teleport them but they can kill you teleporting to them.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-04, 05:47

    if you read the damn rules if they tp to you they cannot kill you, so you have time to politely ask them to leave

    ignorance is not an excuse
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    Post by Jhubbz_ 2011-06-04, 06:05

    so after a little argument in game with Ryk, id like some clarification on this.

    If someone teleports to me without my consent, I have every right to kill them on sight yes?

    I have no way to know if the guy behind me all of a sudden teleported there(and who knows if they ARE an idiot about to tp kill me) or just snuck up to kill me, And I'd rather not find out while I'm busy typing a request for them to leave.
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-06-04, 06:09

    Jhubbz_ wrote:so after a little argument in game with Ryk, id like some clarification on this.

    If someone teleports to me without my consent, I have every right to kill them on sight yes?

    I have no way to know if the guy behind me all of a sudden teleported there(and who knows if they ARE an idiot about to tp kill me) or just snuck up to kill me, And I'd rather not find out while I'm busy typing a request for them to leave.

    Yes, if somebody teleports to you without your consent, you have every right to kill them.
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    Post by Rykleos 2011-06-04, 06:10

    Thats fucking stupid. So can I teleport someone to me and have every right to kill them? No. But I get no warning when I teleport to someone and they kill me.
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    Post by Onlyme 2011-06-04, 06:12

    Rykleos wrote:Thats fucking stupid. So can I teleport someone to me and have every right to kill them? No. But I get no warning when I teleport to someone and they kill me.

    You teleported to people without their permission. That's inviting punishment on your part, yes?
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    Post by Rykleos 2011-06-04, 06:15

    My instance was where the guy invited me to buy his home. I come to look at it and killed on sight. Fun.
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    Post by Ciphon 2011-06-04, 06:22

    lol i can think of 5 people off of the top of my head that have broken the pvp rules towards me or other players in the past, thank gosh those days are over Very Happy
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    Post by Jhubbz_ 2011-06-04, 06:25

    Rykleos wrote:My instance was where the guy invited me to buy his home. I come to look at it and killed on sight. Fun.

    If I recall correctly, he wasn't speaking to YOU about buying the house, and you never specifically asked to teleport either.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-06-04, 06:31

    And this is why we need something along the lines of /tpa. Too bad the only plugin that seems to have something like that is Essentials. Which is a bloated piece of shit.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-06-04, 06:32

    FillerB: Plugin developer.

    Nice title that.
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-06-04, 06:46

    I actually bookmarked and read all of the rules, probablt will forget like 2 or so but
    (Not understanding the rules is not an excuse for breaking them). Also these are good
    rules I'll tell all my noobish friends about the rules changed.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-06-04, 06:52

    Orcworm wrote:FillerB: Plugin developer.

    Nice title that.

    Well fuck me. Check the SSSS.

    Also just a note to everyone. These rules are subject to change. We're still fine tuning them.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-04, 09:19

    act upon these rules for now until a permanent set have been established, and the rule clearly state no TP to third part without consent, i wrote it pretty clearly...
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    Post by Guest 2011-06-05, 07:21

    I`m pretty sure someone has asked this before, but say:
    I tp to some little noob, after his saying "Yes, please tp to me."
    He kills me.
    What happens then, I didn`t reallly see anything about it in the rules, or did I miss it, or is it still just a dickmove?
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-06-05, 07:50

    I've done this plenty of times so far and I keep losing my compass and they won't give me back my shit I know I complain sometimes but this is pissing me off.

    We should have some sorta thing to do that if they do this we can go back /tp maybe (I don't think so) and get our stuff back by first asking nicely then ask a Staff member to help? I don't know but please help me and Music Man/anyone else who this happens to.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-05, 09:05

    simple do not tp to people you do not trust
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-05, 09:24

    Yarwood wrote:
    Jhubbz_ wrote:so after a little argument in game with Ryk, id like some clarification on this.

    If someone teleports to me without my consent, I have every right to kill them on sight yes?

    I have no way to know if the guy behind me all of a sudden teleported there(and who knows if they ARE an idiot about to tp kill me) or just snuck up to kill me, And I'd rather not find out while I'm busy typing a request for them to leave.

    Yes, if somebody teleports to you without your consent, you have every right to kill them.

    What if someone teleports to you WITHOUT your consent?
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-05, 09:41

    = ban for violation of teleport rules, you need both parties consent
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    Post by Pete 2011-06-05, 09:45

    Where's THAT in the rules!?
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-06-05, 11:10

    I haven't seen that either.
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    Post by Guest 2011-06-05, 12:01

    I mean that
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     if I teleport to someone, and they killme right as I do that, is THAT legal, or......?
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-06-05, 12:04

    Oh like Camping almost but not? What if a person shit they're pants? oh wait after you guys both agree its ok? or?
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-06-05, 12:07

    Why is it so hard to just kill people without any teleportation. Jesus stop looking for loop hills, you should not kill someone using teleport ever. I don't understand why you think any method of teleportation to kill people is ok? Have you not figured it out yet? Go read complaints and see all the problems about this and maybe think hmm do I want my name on the list of people who can't handle donation powers?
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-06-05, 12:22

    Goddamn loop hills.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-06-05, 13:06

    Dem goddamn, no good, motherfucking loop hills. Stop lookin for em.

    Anywho, throwing my 2 cents (or is it sense? Neither version made much sense to me, frankly) into the fray:

    Until /tpa is in effect, I believe that a tp withOUT consent of person B (assuming person A tp'd to person B) allows person B to kill person A on the spot. If person B permits person A to tp to them and THEN kills them, that should be considered tp killing and thus, a bannable offense.

    That is all. :3
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    Post by mtbers 2011-06-07, 01:03

    OMG how many grammar and spelling mistakes can a single publication contain, lol.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-06-07, 01:11

    That's because, as has been said before, it's a work-in-progress that got posted too early.
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-06-07, 15:30

    Per request, Global Announcement.
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-06-08, 07:09

    Good, I was waiting for that Ruly. Also, Lizard made a good point, but what if person B wanted to fight person A and person A tps to person B kills them then person B makes a Tp killing complaint?
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-06-08, 07:38

    person A tp killed ffs

    stop looking for fucking loop holes or it will be assumed you are trying to break the rules...

    how many times must it be said! these rules are not the final set, this is a template and the rules are a work in progress
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    Post by redjello 2011-06-09, 03:46

    what if person A tps to person be at the same time person B tps to person A person C comes in and kills A wolf while person B attacks C and A atacks B and D uses /put to tp A to D
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    Post by timeer2 2011-06-09, 08:00

    I highly doubt that would happen. How desperate do you want to tp kill
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    Post by Hejjins 2011-06-10, 13:37

    redjello wrote:what if person A tps to person be at the same time person B tps to person A person C comes in and kills A wolf while person B attacks C and A atacks B and D uses /put to tp A to D
    Everyone is banned except person C because he killed a wolf and did nothing wrong at all, no TP and no attacking of other players. GJ person C sorry you had to die.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-06-11, 03:41

    Imir31d wrote:person A tp killed ffs

    stop looking for fucking loop holes or it will be assumed you are trying to break the rules...

    how many times must it be said! these rules are not the final set, this is a template and the rules are a work in progress

    they are just trying to help, its not that they are trying to find loopholes to use, its that they are trying to find loopholes so you can fix them. .-.
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    Post by mtbers 2011-06-11, 04:36

    FillerB wrote:You know the "Spirit of Orcworm SMP" which I was taking way too long to write up would have just summed this all up in "The game is meant to be fun for everyone, so don't be an asshole". But this works too I guess.

    Why cant everyone just get along.
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    Post by filmjolk 2011-06-16, 07:26

    "Staff should refrain from trolling and maintain a professional standard."

    but, I dont even...
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-06-16, 12:15

    Yah no one follows that one filmjolk. Don't sweat it, it isn't even in the rules that are on orcworm.co.uk

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