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    Post by Ryoman 2011-08-19, 15:32

    Hi, i am requesting a new rule be made that if you are to join a faction on the chaos server, you can't just join to steal all theyre loot then leave to another faction or to create your own. Its come to my attention that this is becoming a big problem among factions, it also just happend to us today and i have had quite enough. So please, im sure this is something that would make everyone happy. Thanks.
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    Post by Orcworm 2011-08-19, 15:35

    /f invite closed

    Or something like that anyway, otherwise players are able to freely join and leave.
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-08-19, 15:39

    That's not what i mean. To be invited into a faction, take everything then leave that faction to get into another. There should be a rule against it.
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-08-19, 15:43

    Orcworm wrote:/f close*
    If you miss that then you probably missed the signs at spawn saying type "/f help".
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-08-19, 15:49

    My faction is INVITE ONLY. The problem is inviting people into the faction(/f invite [name]) Then they steal all items in your chests then leave the faction (/f leave) and either go make their own faction with the stolen items or give them to another faction and join them. Am i making it clear enough?
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    Post by GaMerG77 2011-08-19, 15:57

    Well, don't invite random people. Very Happy
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    Post by FillerB 2011-08-19, 17:41

    GaMerG77 wrote:Well, don't invite random people. Very Happy

    That. We (or atleast I) am not going out on a limb to protect people from their own stupidity. Not when a hit-and-run is a perfectly valid if slightly underhanded tactic. YOU are the Faction Leader here. It is thus your duty to make sure that the people who join are actually trustworthy enough. Don't expect us to do your job for you.
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-08-19, 18:12

    First, I'm not the faction leader Deathsplat is, i'm representing the Gladiators. Second its hardly stupidity if someone who you have invited into a faction, someone you trust and believe to be reliable sudenly wakes up one day intent on leaving and taking everything with them. All im asking for is one simple little rule to prevent people from taking your stuff a week after they join. Thats all.
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    Post by FillerB 2011-08-19, 18:25

    Then declare war on him and steal your stuff right back. It's what the whole bloody server is for. A rule like "You can't steal stuff from your Faction" would gut and rip out the entrails of the most interesting, social part of the game and dance a merry jig with it. I am ofcourse talking about espionage, backstabbing, undercover work and plain old sabotage. What you are suggesting here would turn the server in little more than a slightly expanded WarHub.
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    Post by skoglol 2011-08-19, 18:45

    I have to agree with filler, that kind of situation is the cornerstone of interesting gameplay.
    I play eve online, which has a -very- limited set of rules towards scamming and theft. Pretty much as long as you don't hack an account, you can do it. This is one of the things that make the game so good. You are forced to build trust to everyone you intend to share the gaming experience with.

    Here's a few examples:
    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/12/biggest-eve-online-scam-ever-recorded-nets-over-a-trillion-isk/
    *snip*Ponzi scheme*snip*
    When the business closed up earlier today its owners collected the remaining 1,034 billion ISK. To put that massive number in perspective, it's enough to buy 2,953 30-day time codes worth a total of $51,677.50.
    Yes, that's right. 51 thousand american fucking dollars! Stop bitching about half a stack of diamonds and some logs.

    And here's another
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
    This is actually quite related to what could be on the chaos server. Once you start metagaming, you'll see a whole other aspect of the gameplay.

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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-08-20, 06:56

    Silly idea Ryoman... Stealing is part of the fun.
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    Post by Deathsplat 2011-08-20, 07:13

    Ryoman wrote:First, I'm not the faction leader Deathsplat is, i'm representing the Gladiators. Second its hardly stupidity if someone who you have invited into a faction, someone you trust and believe to be reliable sudenly wakes up one day intent on leaving and taking everything with them. All im asking for is one simple little rule to prevent people from taking your stuff a week after they join. Thats all.

    Well this is awkward.
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    Post by Pete 2011-08-20, 07:42

    Ok, I'm from the LostTrolls, I'm a mod there, and we are the faction that has had the most traitors, even though we are a closed faction and only invite people we trust.

    That said; treason is the most awesome part of the game, for instance, if we hadn't had any traitors, we would probably rule the game completely, and would possibly have at least 50 people in the faction. (If they couldn't betray us, we would invite anyone.)

    So yeah, I, a victim of this, am against this rule... Just saying. Smile
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-08-20, 07:59

    <-------Same Credentials, Same Opinion. I've even been scapegoated and I STILL don't want this rule.
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    Post by Albuca 2011-08-20, 08:48

    I am with the above.
    No rules == FUN!

    So watch your backs ... Wink
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    Post by uberblake 2011-08-20, 12:32

    The fun part is leaving when they dont suspect you at all and completely trust you.
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    Post by Deathsplat 2011-08-20, 14:32

    uberblake wrote:The fun part is leaving when they dont suspect you at all and completely trust you.


    -gulp- you're in my faction Sad
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-08-20, 14:56

    redjello would love this rule Wink.

    But, no. That would ruin the whole.. 'SMP' part of MCMMO.
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    Post by aapl2 2011-08-20, 19:41

    thanks for dem loots gladiators ^.^

    losttrolls wold never rule the server even if mafia was gone
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-08-20, 21:38

    aapl2 wrote:thanks for dem loots gladiators ^.^

    losttrolls wold never rule the server even if mafia was gone

    Considering Mafia is the only faction that's made any threat and managed to take *some* loot from us, we probably would tbh Razz.
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    Post by lolyounoob1 2011-08-21, 10:34

    No one even plays on mafia anymore since someone...(not even a losttroll, moat) tnt'd our place lawl.

    And some loot :p


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    Post by Deathsplat 2011-08-21, 12:14

    aapl2 wrote:thanks for dem loots gladiators ^.^

    losttrolls wold never rule the server even if mafia was gone

    lolwut
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    Post by Grintendo 2011-08-21, 20:27

    Well he was a lost troll, which turned out to be the most stupid and OBVIOUS mistake you could make QQ.
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    Post by Deathsplat 2011-08-22, 10:18

    Grintendo wrote:Well he was a lost troll, which turned out to be the most stupid and OBVIOUS mistake you could make QQ.

    lolwut?
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-08-22, 12:49

    Please don't put one word in a post...
    My opinion on the rule is: no... just no its Chaos it already has enough rules (none).
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    Post by aapl2 2011-08-22, 18:21

    Deathsplat wrote:
    Grintendo wrote:Well he was a lost troll, which turned out to be the most stupid and OBVIOUS mistake you could make QQ.

    lolwut?

    Someone had a problem and couldn't handle it like they were at least 8.
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    Post by lolyounoob1 2011-08-23, 04:24

    Grintendo wrote:Well he was a lost troll, which turned out to be the most stupid and OBVIOUS mistake you could make QQ.
    You trying to say moat was losttrolls or are you talking to someone else? :p

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