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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 11:14

    pretty much, my main point here is that because there isn't enough mods, i think donators should have a way to at least prevent if not control grief related to them and their property, but apparently the Cons outweigh the Pros in this. so i guess the only option is more mods :/
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    Post by Jarvisd 2011-05-07, 11:15

    Well if the mods can't handle /lb rollback, doubt they will be able to. Don't worry about the grief, we have lb for a reason you don't need ban or kick. We don't need more mods derp. If we do maybe we should think it out instead of yarwood picking arandom person he likes. Maybe someone who lives in the timezone who would come on at these so called 'no mod times'.. lol
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-05-07, 11:26

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    Post by Ryoman 2011-05-07, 11:30

    lol looks like Ive been caught offtopic Razz
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 11:40

    Honestly? im on ALOT (/me has no life) and the only mods i see active are liz, Ruly, str, and albuca, and thats because albuca was just promoted. and out of the admins, i see you (Jar), Yar, PC, And Krios on the most, and mostly its just here and there, and almost always only one of you.

    there are plenty admins/mods in staff, but not all of them are active. (Gawd dammit i was tring to keep this topic from turning into a clone of ryks thread!! oh well...) so like i said, if we cant even know who griefed us when mods are not online, then there needs to always be at least 1 mod online. and the only way to do that is to either somehow force the unactive mods into being active, or get more mods.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 11:58

    Let's start with this:

    When is there the supposed "no mod time"?
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    Post by Pete 2011-05-07, 12:00

    You don't just "get more mods". If we need mods, and we don't have them, it's because we don't have good enough people. If we have good enough people and we don't promote them, it's because we don't need more mods.

    Seriously, grief gets logged and fixed easily; what's the problem with waiting a couple of hours?
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 12:04

    PP, it's that there's almost always 2 or more people who require assistance when there's only 1-2 mods on. Not complaining, just stating my experience.

    More mods = heightend security imo. I can thinnk of a few trustworthy people off the top of my head which I shan't name here.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-05-07, 12:04

    it is true, if your could clock check and not do anything about it... then it would just annoy you more, at least you know that the culprit will eventually be found when a mod does get online, i dis agree to the idea of allowing donators access to block check, mainly because i can see major flame wars starting if a donator knew who griefed his home...
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 12:13

    @liz: there's no specific time, its just random, its anywhere in between 10 am CST and 1am CST that i notice it.

    it mostly happens more closer to those to times but it happens anywhere in between.

    @Imir: you make a good point, it would start flaming constantly.
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    Post by Imir31d 2011-05-07, 12:16

    Orcworm wrote:I can't believe this has reached page 4 and is still on-topic, AND hasn't derived into a flame war.

    someones a shit-stirring Razz

    Orcworm, same rule apply do not feed the trolls, i also ask yhou to not encourage them either Razz

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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 12:18

    @Knight

    Who are the regulars on during that timeframe? That's far too late for me.
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    Post by Pete 2011-05-07, 12:26

    Yeah, but then again; there is no problem that needs instant solving... Everything can be checked through the logs...
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 12:28

    Lizardman wrote:@Knight

    Who are the regulars on during that timeframe? That's far too late for me.

    mostly, for mods, str and albuca. and for admins all of them just kind of pop up randomly to me :/ sometimes its yar, sometimes its jar, iv been seeing krios the most lately tho.

    EDIT: @Pete: it really depends on how bad the grief is, considering your not supposed to try to fix it at all without a mod, it can make getting supplies from your home very hard, and if the fill your house with some random block and you forget and /home you end up dieing.

    yeah you can always wait, but the faster its fixed the less hardship on the Griefed
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 12:35

    I meant non-staff when the staff are not on.
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-05-07, 12:36

    I agree with Knight and with Pete, its not a problem that needs instant solving but if we did have more mods, well theres nothing wrong with a few more trustworthy players with anti grief powers to beef up security ,overall convenience and happiness on the server.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 12:40

    ah i c, um, the random guests youd expect, Jhubbz and slave some times,i think iv seen Grint on quite a bit at those times. cant really remember most of them off the top of my head... Scared
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 12:42

    'Sall good, meign.

    Just trying to get more info about this elusive time period in which there are no authoritative figures.
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    Post by Krellyn 2011-05-07, 12:47

    I think there should be a VETO type system for either all Members (giving the 'Member' title a purpose) or all Donators.

    I don't know if VETO is as appropriate as "Vote Kick System."
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 12:49

    dam why didnt i think of that, that would help
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 12:51

    wouldn't do squat against griefing cases. :S
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-05-07, 12:54

    What is VETO?
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    Post by Albuca 2011-05-07, 13:31

    IMO, if no ones on, make a post on the forums and someone will get on it right quick.
    Things dont have to be instant (we do have lives), but some of us (me) get emails when someone posts in appeals or complaints.

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    Post by Veritascapto 2011-05-07, 13:39

    Lizardman wrote:'Sall good, meign.

    Just trying to get more info about this elusive time period in which there are no authoritative figures.

    I've been online many times during this time period and can confirm the lack of authority. I would even go as for as to say that this lack of authority starts as early as 9:00pm cst. While I respect this server this server and it's current administration, I would not mind a new mod or two to, "beefen," up security on this server.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 14:36

    Veritascapto wrote:
    Lizardman wrote:'Sall good, meign.

    Just trying to get more info about this elusive time period in which there are no authoritative figures.

    I've been online many times during this time period and can confirm the lack of authority. I would even go as for as to say that this lack of authority starts as early as 9:00pm cst. While I respect this server this server and it's current administration, I would not mind a new mod or two to, "beefen," up security on this server.

    YES! you were the one i was tryin to remember! thank you!

    now im not crazy cuz its more than one person sayin it! =D

    @Albuca: yeah, i know u guys have lives but by being a mod orcworm's part of that life, im not sayin u gotta be on 24/7 but it be nice if at least 1 mod was on at all times. as for the posting on the forums, thats true, theres always that. but for the people that dont have an account on the forums, they would have to sign up and all that just to report a grief, and imo you shouldn't have to do that if you dont want to. some people hate signing up for game server forums because they dont use them and its just another password/username they gotta remember/protect.
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    Post by Monstaboi 2011-05-07, 15:04

    i can also honestly say donators should not have /ban, its pretty unnescary. kick would help with some spammers sometimes, but it would just end up abused.
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    Post by Ryoman 2011-05-07, 15:06

    Thats why we need to find a way to keep it balanced, to avoid a bunch of flame wars, to avoid people getting banned cuz captain Nurpaderp feels like banning someone, to make things better without making them worse.
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-05-07, 17:18

    Kn16h7 wrote:
    Veritascapto wrote:
    Lizardman wrote:'Sall good, meign.

    Just trying to get more info about this elusive time period in which there are no authoritative figures.

    I've been online many times during this time period and can confirm the lack of authority. I would even go as for as to say that this lack of authority starts as early as 9:00pm cst. While I respect this server this server and it's current administration, I would not mind a new mod or two to, "beefen," up security on this server.

    YES! you were the one i was tryin to remember! thank you!

    now im not crazy cuz its more than one person sayin it! =D

    @Albuca: yeah, i know u guys have lives but by being a mod orcworm's part of that life, im not sayin u gotta be on 24/7 but it be nice if at least 1 mod was on at all times. as for the posting on the forums, thats true, theres always that. but for the people that dont have an account on the forums, they would have to sign up and all that just to report a grief, and imo you shouldn't have to do that if you dont want to. some people hate signing up for game server forums because they dont use them and its just another password/username they gotta remember/protect.

    Heaven forbid they put forth an effort to report a problem. We're mods, not beckon-call boys. You think we're going to spoon-feed someone? If it's an inconvenience to sign up "just to report a grief", then obviously the grief doesn't bother them enough.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 17:25

    Rulyon wrote:
    Kn16h7 wrote:
    Veritascapto wrote:
    Lizardman wrote:'Sall good, meign.

    Just trying to get more info about this elusive time period in which there are no authoritative figures.

    I've been online many times during this time period and can confirm the lack of authority. I would even go as for as to say that this lack of authority starts as early as 9:00pm cst. While I respect this server this server and it's current administration, I would not mind a new mod or two to, "beefen," up security on this server.

    YES! you were the one i was tryin to remember! thank you!

    now im not crazy cuz its more than one person sayin it! =D

    @Albuca: yeah, i know u guys have lives but by being a mod orcworm's part of that life, im not sayin u gotta be on 24/7 but it be nice if at least 1 mod was on at all times. as for the posting on the forums, thats true, theres always that. but for the people that dont have an account on the forums, they would have to sign up and all that just to report a grief, and imo you shouldn't have to do that if you dont want to. some people hate signing up for game server forums because they dont use them and its just another password/username they gotta remember/protect.

    Heaven forbid they put forth an effort to report a problem. We're mods, not beckon-call boys. You think we're going to spoon-feed someone? If it's an inconvenience to sign up "just to report a grief", then obviously the grief doesn't bother them enough.

    meh, im not speaking for myself there, but people out there a fucking LAZY! but you do have a point.
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    Post by PureCraft 2011-05-07, 19:30

    Kn16h7 wrote: know u guys have lives but by being a mod orcworm's part of that life, im not sayin u gotta be on 24/7 but it be nice if at least 1 mod was on at all times. as for the posting on the forums, thats true, theres always that. but for the people that dont have an account on the forums, they would have to sign up and all that just to report a grief, and imo you shouldn't have to do that if you dont want to. some people hate signing up for game server forums because they dont use them and its just another password/username they gotta remember/protect.
    You dont want to know how often and long im on this freakin server! I need time for myself too bro, I cant afford my whole fucking life to Minecraft.
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    Post by Kn16h7 2011-05-07, 19:42

    PureCraft wrote:
    Kn16h7 wrote: know u guys have lives but by being a mod orcworm's part of that life, im not sayin u gotta be on 24/7 but it be nice if at least 1 mod was on at all times. as for the posting on the forums, thats true, theres always that. but for the people that dont have an account on the forums, they would have to sign up and all that just to report a grief, and imo you shouldn't have to do that if you dont want to. some people hate signing up for game server forums because they dont use them and its just another password/username they gotta remember/protect.
    You dont want to know how often and long im on this freakin server! I need time for myself too bro, I cant afford my whole fucking life to Minecraft.
    i dont want YOU to be on 24/7, i already said that. im just wanting there to not be times where there's NO mod+ online AT ALL for about 2 hours at a time. and yes like its been said before, its not NEEDED, but it would be better for the server imo.


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    Post by Yarwood 2011-05-07, 20:44

    Jarvisd wrote:If we do maybe we should think it out instead of yarwood picking arandom person he likes.

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    Post by FillerB 2011-05-07, 20:59

    I haven't read all 6 pages yet but...

    /kick /ban and the LogBlock-stick will almost certainly never be made available to the general public. We've tried this once and the following abuse/lag was horrendous.

    Maybe and I stress maybe, if there's a good votekick-system then we might think about it. But until then: forget it.

    Now back to reading this drivel.

    Edit; Read it. Boy you guys are a bunch of whiners. Want more mods in some timezones? Fine, give some possible names either here or through PM. If they are trusted enough by us not to horribly fuck up then we can think about it. Then again it's bloody useless seeing as, as had been said before, you people are TOO LAZY TO REPORT.
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-05-07, 22:52

    To me that was a final statement and I belive is the final answer everyone should read his post (FillerB).
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    Post by Yarwood 2011-05-07, 23:18

    Apparently I can't lock in this category. Can a Forum Mod, please do so? Very Happy
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    Post by Baldymoint7 2011-05-07, 23:24

    Ahh you agree with me eh Yar? Or is this just pissing you off? nvm its going to be locked anyway.
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    Post by Lizardman 2011-05-07, 23:28

    Giev us powr t0 lawk. :.:
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    Post by FillerB 2011-05-07, 23:35

    Locked.
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    Post by Rulyon 2011-05-08, 03:47

    Lizardman wrote:Giev us powr t0 lawk. :.:

    Mods and Admin don't need power to lock forum threads outside of Complaints/Appeals. We have Forum Staff for a reason. Smile
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